Accepting credit cards - what company NOT to use

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IMS - International Merchant Services
55 East 63rd Street
Westmount, IL 60559

http://www.ims.com/

My co workers and I have had nothing but problems with this company.
*"accidental" $95 charges (2 months in a row)
*Uppping the monthly fees right after we signed up with them
*They were rude to me trying to close my account - the lady actually HUNG UP on me (and I was not being rude or anything at all... I understand how to be nice to people in call centers!!!!)

There were other issues, I just can't think to put them into words right now.



My suggestion: work with your bank where you have your business account, work with someone at your local branch who will help you if you end up having probs with the account, and make copies of everything you sign, and read everything you sign.
 


great tips moose_goose! I've never heard of this company, but I know mine has been nothing but a pain to work with. Unfortunately I'm signed into a contract and can't shop around for a while yet...
 


stonegirl said:
great tips moose_goose! I've never heard of this company, but I know mine has been nothing but a pain to work with. Unfortunately I'm signed into a contract and can't shop around for a while yet...

Usually on the monthly statement you get it will list some sort of change to teh fee structure, like "visa implimented an new charge.."
You can call before the "effective" date of that new charge to say that you do not agree to the new fee and they have (?) to let you out of your contract. Guess it's a loophole...
 
Accepting credit cards - what company NOT to use

moose_goose said:
IMS - International Merchant Services
55 East 63rd Street
Westmount, IL 60559

http://www.ims.com/
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I live right near here. Too bad you aren't closer, you could march right in there and speak to someone who couldn't rudely hang up on you.
 


Pete said:
I recently switched my processing to Elavon through their partnership with Costco.

So far, it's been pretty good - but it's only been a month...

Watch out for periodic rate increases with this company (I profusely vented about them in another thread). The nice lady I talked to said rate increases are in my agreement and statements "in fine print". Sure.

Also, they did not put a tip line on my credit slips. AFTER I specifically asked the local rep and he told me it would be no problem. I was in a massage while he was setting up my terminal and came out to find a note "Sorry I couldn't set up the tip line. As a massage therapist you are not supposed to accept tips. Thanks, Tom". Going back and forth with this doofus and calls to the call center didn't resolve anything. I understand tipping is a whole separate discussion BUT...Is this really a good way to handle this?

I am in a 3 yr contract with Elavon and I will be looking for another company when it expires.
 


Beware of any provider that mentions SECURITY METRICS.

SM is not a credit card provider, they do "web site security scans". I used to have my service through a local provider. I started receiving threatening messages on my statements that if I do not comply with Visa/MC security requirements I will be fined $500,000. You had to complete a lengthy questionnare suited more more a large company like Wal Mart and have your web site scanned for holes. I had my site professionally done by a very reputable company. I sell GC's but at the time it was done thru PayPal. I got tricked into doing an annual scan ($99). Sure enough they found a plethora of problems and to fix them I needed to download software by Security Metrics. They were persistently calling me. When I tried getting an explanation what the problems were the tech named Casey would talk down to me, sigh patiently etc. I may be a female and a dumb masseuse but I studied computer science for a year so I have the basic idea how things work. Casey would patiently sigh again and tell me that I wouldn't understand so he wouldn't bother explaining it to me. They treated my web designers like crap, too. I had a number of heated arguments with the local business who got me into this mess so the harassing calls stopped but I never got my $99 back.

Another MT, a friend, had their service thru them as well. They tricked her into doing quarterly scans of her web site for $300. She does not even sell GC's online! All her web site has is her address and list of services. Their rationale was: what if someone hacks into your web site, sets up a shopping cart, someone buys a GC and then they take the shopping cart down. And you will never know. That's why you need peace odf mind through Security Metrics.

So keep in mind: Security Metrics - bad news. I personally don't recomme3nd doing business with anyone who does business with Security metrics. They are bad news and all they want is your money.
 


Pete said:
Anastasia said:
Also, they did not put a tip line on my credit slips. AFTER I specifically asked the local rep and he told me it would be no problem. I was in a massage while he was setting up my terminal and came out to find a note "Sorry I couldn't set up the tip line. As a massage therapist you are not supposed to accept tips. Thanks, Tom". Going back and forth with this doofus and calls to the call center didn't resolve anything. I understand tipping is a whole separate discussion BUT...Is this really a good way to handle this?

Interesting. I was able to get the tip line on my machine - no problem. I had to go thru tech support to get it reprogrammed, but it's there and working just fine. Perhaps you should call again...

I did call and complained. The sales rep I talked to at the HQ was actually very nice and tried changing it for me (she said her fiance is an MT so she must understand out issues!). She said that their security department would not let them change my code. She asked me if I did any skin care services and in fact, when the account was set up I had an esthetician (am looking for a new one now). The rep said that then they should've allowed the tip line. Tried again - same result.

I think I am the only MT in town who doesn't have the tip line. Everybody else had no problem setting it up with their providers.

When I was arguing with the intial sales rep (local) he told me that according to Visa/MC policies there are only 3 types of businesses that are "allowed" to accept tips: hair salons, restaurants and ... fast food restaurants!

To me it seems more like Elavon's interpretaion of Visa/MC policies.
 


We work with IMS, and have not had a problem yet. (Knock on wood!)
 


I use http://www.propay.com it's a bit more expensive than others but I have found no hidden fees. I do have a very small cc business so the small annual fee is perfect for me.
 


calmhead247 said:
I use http://www.propay.com it's a bit more expensive than others but I have found no hidden fees. I do have a very small cc business so the small annual fee is perfect for me.

Ditto! They're not the cheapest but since I'm a really small practice, I found they're the way to go. They also haven't j3rked with me :)

I hope that those of you with cc company problems have better luck. It IS frustrating to get messed with.

Hugs!
~Jyoti
 


jyoti said:
calmhead247 said:
I use http://www.propay.com it's a bit more expensive than others but I have found no hidden fees. I do have a very small cc business so the small annual fee is perfect for me.

Ditto! They're not the cheapest but since I'm a really small practice, I found they're the way to go. They also haven't j3rked with me :)

I hope that those of you with cc company problems have better luck. It IS frustrating to get messed with.

Hugs!
~Jyoti

I am looking at maybe signing up with ProPay. Calmhead247 and Jyoti would either of you be willing to share you experiences with them with me. I know both of you have said they aren't the cheapest. I am curious as to which 'program' you sign up for with them and if you use the reader, if you call in or do it online, any problems you have ever had with them, if you get the card or transfer to your bank account and how transferring has been for you... all those questions. You can PM me if you prefer! Thanks!
 


gpcmassage...

I have the premium package for $59.95/yr. If you want anything higher you have to show a history of accepting cedit cards. The only anoying thing is a transaction limit of $500. It is a $3000 a month limit but if you sell a gift certificate for more than $500 you have to process it as 2 seperate transactions. Fee wise it's only $0.35 extra but it is annoying.

I call the number in using my cell and I do an imprint recipt for the client and myself. The card reader seems good but it doesn't tell you if the card is declined until you hook it up to your computer, then you have to track down your client and get another cc#.

I also like using the debit card they give you. Since I don't use my massage money to pay bills,(I massage PT) I don't have to wait for it to be transfered to my checking account. I only use my massage money to purchace items that I could use a credit card on.

hope this helps!
 


I am not happy with Charge

They put me in a package the is too expensive for my practice. So for me to get out of my contracte I need to pay $300 because it is a 3 year commitment.
 
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    TUESDAY at 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: Cherry & best massage Rachel 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ CHERRY is a Vietnamese beauty, standing 1.62Cm tall & weighing 50Kg, with a nice 32C bust size. She is a sexy and charming lady with excellent service. RACHEL is a slim and attractive attendant
  33. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: Cindy, Eva & Helen. Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Eva is young, slim, innocent & demure looks, but don’t let her innocent looks deceive. She can massage & service very well.
  34. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at 𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: COCO, LILY & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ COCO (* NEW TODAY) is a beautiful Chinese lady, 1M 60Cms & 50Kgs, possessing nice C Cups. Very friendly, can do everything. LILY (*NEW TODAY) is A SEXY Russian babe, 1M 64Cms with 37D melons and great services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll
  35. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular
  36. Dreaminn:
    TUESDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: EVA, HONEY & VIVI. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ EVA is a slim, pretty & sexy Asian girl. She has excellent bbbj skills if you are nice and clean, and can perform like a champion. HONEY is a beautiful slim Asian lady with an ample bosom, slightly curvy with a great ass. Her services are highly sought after.
  37. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young sweet student Mia 25 years old and young cute Ivy with curve body, pretty GFE Lina and sex Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,🏠address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅🦵🦵🈵🈵👄👄
  39. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  40. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Angel 💕 Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy, she can provide a great massage and wonderful touch and super service. Angel is so sexy, especially her 34C breasts and her big juicy tight bum you can worship and ador
  41. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  42. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom spa ♨️♨️♨️ table shower body scrub 👍👍👍We have 3 beautiful young girls working today, young and lovely Jessica and coco Specialising in table shower body scrub massages and offering deep massages Cici🤗🤗🤗🤗5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke.Please call ☎️416-817-3366 to book and Walk in the back door there is plenty of parking available
  43. Flowers Spa:
    ✰ 416 357 9797 ✰1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill Vaughan 🇭🇰🇭🇰 CICI | SHERRY a HongKong woman, is of average height and build, with very smooth skin. She is gorgeous and friendly 🇨🇳🇻🇳 JULLIE | JESSIE a 19-year-old Chinese and Vietnamese woman, provides exceptional service with her youthful beauty....After 9PM 🇻🇳🇻🇳 HANNA Vietnamese good, energetic medium body; also does lighter treatments with emphasis on service. ✰ BlueXado Spa ✰ 416 357 9797 ✰1102 Centre St, Unit #6, Thornhill
  44. Pink Flower Spa:
    ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰ 3300 McNicoll Ave, Unit #A8, Scarborough 🇱🇧🇱🇧 A talented Girl from Lebanon is joining our team, bringing with her a unique set of skills and a fresh perspective...🇨🇳🇻🇳Kelly | Elly (New) is Chinese Vietnamese, standing tall with captivating beauty and a radiant complexion...🇮🇳🇮🇳 Sonia | Aniy from India is young & curvy, very pretty, lightly toned...Comfortable service...🇻🇳🇻🇳 Hanna from Vietnam, young and good energetic…✰ PINK FLOWER SPA ✰ 416.299.5515 ✰
  45. SpringGreen.:
    Spring Green Spa - 72 Gerrard St W. 2/Fl - 647-891-0699Today we have 5 girls on Monday:💋💋New lisa young student,💋💋 lisa- Service queen with a banging body that is sure to make heads turn. Angel - innocent GND looks that has a very sensual side to warm things up Coco - Spunky fun in...
  46. Moon203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 big boobs natural (36F) BoBo and Spanish girl Mia today && 22ys Indian girl and new Young student girl in Tuesday
  47. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan just arr
  48. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who Wa
  49. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: EMILY & HANNA. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ EMILY is a beautiful Asian lady, 36C-29-29, 5’4” & 110Lbs, with a sensual touch. HANNA is a young, tall & slim Vietnamese honey with great skills & attitude.
  50. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at 𝗡𝗘𝗪 𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗧𝗔𝗟 𝗦𝗣𝗔: HAPPY & LULU. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟴𝟭-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎️ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
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