Dealing with a sex worker outside of the spa.

I would advise those who are thinking about it NOT TO MAKE FRIENDS with a hooker. You will lose if you do so. The one over-riding thing I have realized about hookers is that they live a life of constant dishonesty. They lie to everyone - family, friends, acquaintances, customers etc. You can't be friends with someone who lies all the time. It becomes too much of a troublesome burden.

Ursus said:

I never loaned her the money. I am not that gulible. If a Chinese hooker tells me she needs to send money back to her family, I know FOR CERTAIN she is scamming me. Chinese hookers come from rich families. And since she was a hooker, I knew she could make $2,000 in a few days doing her regular job - on her back with her legs wide open. I told her I knew she was lying. She was actually just trying to see how much money I am 'worth'. She was judging my suitability to her as a 'boyfriend'. If I gave her the $2,000, she would see me as a potential 'mark' and date me for as long as I could be financially useful to her. That's how most women operate.

She was a good-looking girl, but I will never pay an up-front fee to date a lady. Not my style. My current girlfriend doesn't charge me anything, so take my advice - never pay your girlfriend any kind of financial consideration as a 'privelage' to date her.

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So true! As soon as money is gone they say: no money no honey! And they look for the next sucker.

There are some great ladies out there that are better than what you think. Don't simplify a working girl as all the same. That's all folks.

JEG said:

LOL like take him on a week-end trip down to the islands.

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That's the first thing pimps have in mind, ha ha.

JEG said:

Hard to find love for many of the girls that use money as a means of keeping their man. For many girls they are attracted to what most people would regard as losers. These losers are attracted to the girls money and for the most part use them. Time marches on and the girl's earning potential gives way to the young.
Most of the girls that I knew years ago didn't find love.

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kittyhound69 said:

There are some great ladies out there that are better than what you think. Don't simplify a working girl as all the same. That's all folks.

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There are great people that earn a living as a pimp. There are also great people that earn a living as drug dealers. Nothing is 100% in life. Most escorts, imho, are scam artists, but of course there are a few that aren't.

You are 100% right. Escorts are scam artists. It took me a lot of time to realize that they scam you everytime you visit them in a motel. And on top of that they are not that attractive. I quited seeing sps including asian incalls because fed up of their bs.

carlos075 said:

You are 100% right. Escorts are scam artists. It took me a lot of time to realize that they scam you everytime you visit them in a motel. And on top of that they are not that attractive. I quited seeing sps including asian incalls because fed up of their bs.

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And I always thought I really had a bigggg dick! I always new her moaning was fake though.

carlos075 said:

You are 100% right. Escorts are scam artists. It took me a lot of time to realize that they scam you everytime you visit them in a motel. And on top of that they are not that attractive. I quited seeing sps including asian incalls because fed up of their bs.

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10% of the SPs in the industry are attractive. The other 90% are not so good. But, a pussy is a pussy. Doesn't really matter at the end of the day. I have never noticed a difference between the pussies of ugly girls versus the pussies of attractive girls. When you meet an ugly SP or MPA, just negotiate her rates down until you feel she is offering you good value. The ugly girls know they are ugly, so they will usually bargain with you.

And in the end, we are all ugly - every one of us on this earth. Even the pretty girls in their 20s end up getting ugly and worthless when they reach their 30s and 40s.

The providers in this biz are in it for the money, and they are paid to maintain a fantasy. And fantasy is just a type of lie. To think the fantasy is anything but is just asking for trouble. Keep the fun in the room. Pay for play and leave.

As I have said many times before, sex-workers are not good people. They are not honest people, they are not trust-worthy people. Whether she used it for Cocaine or other purposes, don't ever lend a sex-worker any money unless you are wealthy and therefore don't care if she pays you back or not.

A long time ago, I was 'friends' with a sex-worker who told me how her boyfriend purchased a life-insurance benefit for her in the amount of $100,000. She wanted to leave her boyfriend but didn't want to reimburse him for the insurance money. That is how these hookers think - money, money, money. That's why they fuck thousands of men and do such a job. Hookers are addicted to easy money.

Sex-workers look at clients as prey. They will use confidence game to gain trust and then exploit that trust (and admiration) to take as much money from a client as they can. I know hobbyists keep claiming that sex-workers are wonderful human beings, but in reality, this just isn't true. Mother Theresa was a wonderful person. Firefighters are wonderful people. Sex-workers are not. We should stop this sugar-coating of the women who work in this industry. Newbies will be most hurt by the perpetual defense of these girls. You have been warned. If you get taken by a sex-worker after reading the many threads on this forum about the dangers of these women, it really is your own fault.

I read the judges finding. I laughed when I read the reference by C. Ruby as to how the courts now view cocaine as being equally dangerous and serious an offense as heroine. It is because of law enforcement that the price is so fucking high. And then dealers cut the cocaine and put in many impurities - call it crack - and then problems abound with the sky-high price, the impurities in the cocaine and everything else. It is the meddling in the trade that causes the problems, not the drug users trying to buy the product.

Cocaine was sold in pharmacies for less than a dollar in the early part of the century. Yes, it is addictive. But, so are many prescription drugs. Let the pharmaceutical manufacturers start manufacturing Cocaine again and let that new supply compete with the crap that is available out on the street. Sell it in pharmacies and treat it as a health addiction issue, not as a criminal offense issue. No difference from alcohol addicition that is available for purchase at the LCBO.

JEG said:

The owner seems not to be willing to appear BUT in the owner's stead will be 5 girls who seem to be willing to commit perjury and state that the mpa is their pimp and they were prostitutes working for her to pay down the loan. The judge has order the names of the witnesses to be released, including full contact info. The defendant's mouthpiece wanted to try ambush, he is going to end up being bitch-slapped instead.
What is the most likely scenario of what the money was used for is found here in this judgement as the date coincides with the loan agreement. LOL World's biggest LOSER.

We all make choices in life.
Sometimes you have to take responsibility for your actions, that is life and a part of growing up.... Time to grow-up!

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Thanks for the update Jeg! It's funny how instead of just facing the music, both the attendant/SP and spa owner will dance the jig for as long as possible. Don't see you much on caerf.cc lately. This is where you're hanging your hat for good? You should post this there as well.

" Likely Daniella will be the last lady as I have an affection for her"
You aren't the only one. She is always glad to see me with a big smile whether in the spa hallway or in the room.
I will be repeating with Daniella for awhile.

Sex workers are DISHONEST, SELFISH people. That's why THEY ARE SEX-WORKERS. Easy money, easy life, lazy lifestyle. The are not good natured. They are some of the lowest, worst people you will meet in life. So, of course, always be cautious in the presence of a sex-worker. If a sex-worker is talking to you, she is probably lieing to you. Don't ever believe any sob story a sex-worker tells you and in general, understand that the sex-worker has WAY MORE MONEY than you do. So, no need to ever give her money unless it is in exchange for services provided.

Think about the behviour of a sex-worker for just a moment - they live a scam life. They advertise to married men. They open their legs to any man who has 5 - 10 twenties on them and they will play you and try to take every asset you have. Most sex-workers come from families with more money than you or I have. Most sex-workers are either married or in a relationship, yet they open there legs to other men without the knowledge of their SO. In short, they CHEAT EVERYONE, every day. So, of course, good chance they will cheat you too.

Most women are terrible human beings. Sex-workers are the lower form of your typical woman.

Except Daniella. She is different. She is awesome.

Ursus said:

Sex workers are DISHONEST, SELFISH people. That's why THEY ARE SEX-WORKERS. Easy money, easy life, lazy lifestyle. The are not good natured. They are some of the lowest, worst people you will meet in life. So, of course, always be cautious in the presence of a sex-worker. If a sex-worker is talking to you, she is probably lieing to you. Don't ever believe any sob story a sex-worker tells you and in general, understand that the sex-worker has WAY MORE MONEY than you do. So, no need to ever give her money unless it is in exchange for services provided.

Think about the behviour of a sex-worker for just a moment - they live a scam life. They advertise to married men. They open their legs to any man who has 5 - 10 twenties on them and they will play you and try to take every asset you have. Most sex-workers come from families with more money than you or I have. Most sex-workers are either married or in a relationship, yet they open there legs to other men without the knowledge of their SO. In short, they CHEAT EVERYONE, every day. So, of course, good chance they will cheat you too.

Most women are terrible human beings. Sex-workers are the lower form of your typical woman.

Except Daniella. She is different. She is awesome.

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So what would you say to the men that pay these sex workers all that money to have them open their legs to have sex with them, what kind of people are they?
They lie to their wives, GF and SO, they lie to friends and colleagues about their secret life, but they are innocent and should not be judged?
If you wish to say all those things about the ladies, then you should also apply this to the men, because without the men these ladies would have no work in the sex industry.
JMHO!

Ursus said:

Sex workers are DISHONEST, SELFISH people. That's why THEY ARE SEX-WORKERS. Easy money, easy life, lazy lifestyle. The are not good natured. They are some of the lowest, worst people you will meet in life. So, of course, always be cautious in the presence of a sex-worker. If a sex-worker is talking to you, she is probably lieing to you. Don't ever believe any sob story a sex-worker tells you and in general, understand that the sex-worker has WAY MORE MONEY than you do. So, no need to ever give her money unless it is in exchange for services provided.

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Didn't you ask sex workers to marry you on multiple occasions?

Ursus said:

Sex workers are DISHONEST, SELFISH people. That's why THEY ARE SEX-WORKERS. Easy money, easy life, lazy lifestyle. The are not good natured. They are some of the lowest, worst people you will meet in life. So, of course, always be cautious in the presence of a sex-worker. If a sex-worker is talking to you, she is probably lieing to you. Don't ever believe any sob story a sex-worker tells you and in general, understand that the sex-worker has WAY MORE MONEY than you do. So, no need to ever give her money unless it is in exchange for services provided.

Think about the behviour of a sex-worker for just a moment - they live a scam life. They advertise to married men. They open their legs to any man who has 5 - 10 twenties on them and they will play you and try to take every asset you have. Most sex-workers come from families with more money than you or I have. Most sex-workers are either married or in a relationship, yet they open there legs to other men without the knowledge of their SO. In short, they CHEAT EVERYONE, every day. So, of course, good chance they will cheat you too.

Most women are terrible human beings. Sex-workers are the lower form of your typical woman.

Except Daniella. She is different. She is awesome.

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Gigi is different, too.