Review Pricing, Caveat Emptor

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Lately, some ads are showing up on Kijiji massage and Leolist massage where the posters are hoping that by posting a higher price it will grab the attention of some clients.

IMO, these ones provide no particular reason for the above average fees. Examples, one on Centre Street North at $100/hr. Home based Edgemont area provider at $90/hr. Therapy skills are sub-standard, nothing to get excited about. In comparison, one of the home based settings in the Hamptons has several therapists with far better skills at $70/hr. And there is no shortage of therapists at the $80/hr mark. If a spa offers a very high end space, and ambience, or an incredible therapist known for their healing expertise, much higher fees are justifiable, otherwise it is just another gimmick.

These new prices in post covid era are ways to get their ads to stand out, with the hope of drawing in new suckers. Caveat Emptor.

Now on LL, a recent masseuse posted an ad with little information seeking up to $800/hr. Not a typo . And there was some male therapist on Kijjji with an ad for $500/hr, then modified to $200/hr for therapeutic massage.

Anyone has the right to ask whatever price they feel they are worth, and there will always be a sucker who will pay it. But it is fun to watch these trends. Several decades ago, in the fine city of Toronto, for about 2 years there was a barrage of ads in the alternate weekly Hour Magazine advertising FS ladies at $200 per encounter. The ads were carefully worded to influence people to believe that for anything less you were likely catching a disease. The going rate at that time was considerably less.

When the total experience is superior, higher prices are always justifiable. However, in the absence of any key differentiators in services, the higher price is a marketing gimmick, and a wallet grab.



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Nothing wrong with higher prices if the setting is in a more expensive environment, like in a hotel or resort spa, with many more amenities, or if the therapist has some exceptional credentials. But when they offer the most basic to sub par massage, it is not justifiable. Buyer beware is the code. If people enjoy wasting their funds, so be it. Mostly, they target older men who they consider an easier prey.
 
Agreed, I am willing to pay a little more if it comes with an added experience or setting, however I have a hard time with any home based provider charging more than 80/h for the massage part even if it comes with an RMT receipt.
 
A providers cost of operation has nothing to do with what they charge, they ask a price generally based on the going market rate and it is up to the clients to decide if it is fair, Where they operate from or what their rent is bears no weight in the discussion. I am all for them saving a few bucks on room fees or operational costs, it tough enough for them to make a buck.
Do you ask your hair stylist to see there financials before a haircut to determine if the price is fair based on what they pay in rent and overhead? Or your grocer, mechanic, or any other business person.
I have been in some pretty shitty studios over the years and some pretty nice private residences for massage services over the years, was there for the massage, not the ambience.
 
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Not taking away from having shitty spas or lovely houses, but independent providers operating out of there home don’t have to give a large cut of the hour fee to the owner. I know enough 60-70 dollar providers that provide a great massage in a lovely atmosphere to go after some of these 90-100/hr providers. Just my personal opinion.
 
Not taking away from having shitty spas or lovely houses, but independent providers operating out of there home don’t have to give a large cut of the hour fee to the owner. I know enough 60-70 dollar providers that provide a great massage in a lovely atmosphere to go after some of these 90-100/hr providers. Just my personal opinion.

I'm sorta new to this. Looking for my first experience with extras. Any recommendations?
 
I'm sorta new to this. Looking for my first experience with extras. Any recommendations?
Stick to the known things for a first experience, browse through the reviews here and find somebody with good reviews, stay away from any review marked YMMV in case it doesn’t turn out the way you want. I’d also suggest either a well reviewed AMP/providers from here, or one of the advertising providers from caf or leo for a first time. Good luck and happy hunting! Let us know how it goes.
 
Stick to the known things for a first experience, browse through the reviews here and find somebody with good reviews, stay away from any review marked YMMV in case it doesn’t turn out the way you want. I’d also suggest either a well reviewed AMP/providers from here, or one of the advertising providers from caf or leo for a first time. Good luck and happy hunting! Let us know how it goes.

Usually YMMV means there is no pre-set menu like at AMPs. But imho, the YMMV ladies are where you find the best experiences. Because it requires creating human relationships. So they are not offering FS, 9 or 10 times every day.


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Agreed AB, I’m all about the YMMV and finding gems now, was just saying for his first foray into the hobby he might not want to go to a lady that doesn’t have a set menu in case it doesn’t fit what he is looking for his first time.
 
Usually YMMV means there is no pre-set menu like at AMPs. But imho, the YMMV ladies are where you find the best experiences. Because it requires creating human relationships. So they are not offering FS, 9 or 10 times every day.


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Thanks for the advice both of you. I made a CAF account and am doing some research. I keep hearing about a place called Elysium. Not showing up on Google, have you heard of it? Where is it? I also keep seeing random 4 character numbers associated with some girls. How do I search these? I am guessing they are ID numbers for some profile. Sorry for all the questions. Very much appreciated.
 
I’ve never been to Elysian, but I’m pretty sure it’s down by the Blackfoot diner on 9 Ave. The 4 digit numbers you see are the last 4 digits of a girls phone number to help differentiate them. It helps with finding ads because many of the AMP girls use the same generic English names
 
Just a little caution about Leo List
80 % of the pictures of the ladies are FAKE .
There are a lot of Scammers on Leo List . They short change you on your time and do not deliver what is promised .
Best check the reviews. Or do what I do. Just walk away when you see she is not as per photo . Not as Advertised
Sometimes the ladies as for deposit. NEVER NEVER send them a deposit . Just go on to the next one
Oh and one more thing. Do not go to KGirl
 
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