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Hi all.

Im a Sport Therapist looking to undertake a course in acupuncture as I think the 2 proffesions will work well together. I have seen a training school in Long Eaton, Nottingham and wondered if anybody has or knows somebody who has trained there.

The next course starts in a few months and would like to hear peoples opinions before I commit.

Thanks, Katie
 
Hi Katielou

As an aupuncturist, I'm always delighted that more people might want to learn about this useful healing art, but I'm always puzzled when folk with existing therapies want to "add" it to whatever it is they already pratice. It makes me think that maybe there's not enough trust in their existing therapeutic training, and that by adding acupuncture it might help to patch it up. I've certainly met physiotherapists that use acupuncture when everything else has failed to work, only to then get a result.

Acupuncture is much more than simply chucking a few needles close to the hurty area. The Chinese foundations of medicine treat sickness on physical, emotional and even spiritual levels, making no separation between these areas. I'd suggest that if you are serious about learning one of the world's longest surviving therapeutic techniques, avoid anywhere that teaches so-called "acupuncture" in a few weekends, as you will miss the part of the training that really allows you to connect with another human being in need of help. "Dry needling" is not acupuncture, as it doesn't have the necessary "language" to deal with people at all levels.

For a thorough training in acupuncture, why not try the Northern College of Acupuncture in York. It has one of the leading research progammes in the country, and a solid reputation in the profession. Val Hopwood runs an MSc in Acupuncture in Coventry that combines Chinese and Western thinking, including clinical reasoning from both directions, which can be studied in short modules.

Finally, I notice you run a mobile service. This is particularly problematic for acupuncture, as it's quite difficult to manage the necessary cleanliness appropriate for acupuncture with cats jumping on the bed. Ask me how I know!
 
Thank you for the advice. The course in Nottingham is spread over 2 years so didnt think there would be much difference to the one in York. I do believe in my knowledge and training, acupuncture is something Ive always been interested in as opposed to it being a last gasp attempt to fix someone.

Ill look into the York course and report back.

Thanks for your time, Katie
 
Hi Katie, I started off practising massage, and then shiatsu, then acupuncture and so i can appreciate the direction your heading in; my advice would be to choose a course that is accredited or undergoing accreditation by an independent body such as the BAAB, this way you can be sure of being in a strong position in the event of increased regulatory requirements etc. There are certainly a few well known acupuncturists on the lecture circuit that have combined acupuncture with sports therapy/otseopathy,physiotherapy etc and who specialise in treating musculo-skeletal problems - so there are some opportunities in this direction.
Best wishes, Tony
 
In response to Tony's posting, yes, there are those folk who combine acupuncture with other therapies, but this tends to be a Westernised version that disregards "Qi" or "energy". Not that this approach is ineffective, it's just very limited. Two weekends' training does not an acupuncturist make! I'd make a very poor osteopath or physiotherapist with that little training.

There is currently a drive to "medicalise" acupuncture and marginalise its historical theories, and doing so makes it poorer rather than richer. When a patient comes to see me for say, knee pain, I have the starting point that allows me to attempt to improve any accompanying insomnia, digestive disorders, IBS, migraine and so on. To treat the knee pain alone would leave me feeling like a "western" practitioner, where the "person" is separated from the "problem". An unfortunate extension of this approach is that there is a danger of perceiving the person AS a problem, this being very evident in the NHS facility where I did some training.

I reitterate, Acupuncture and Dry Needling are not the same.
 
i think a sports therapist has a wide enough skill set to achieve the goals needs and aspirations of their clients, I would refer to suitably qualified practitioner rather than try to add to my port folio of skills, i master in my primary therapy and let oters master theirs
regards
BGFL
 
I would disagree with you David that "the folk who combine therapies tend to use a Westernised version", I think that many traditionally trained acupuncturists have arrived at acupuncture from an earlier experience of another therapeutic system, particularly some kind of bodywork and most of the acupuncture teaching institutions teach some form of bodywork in parallel or as an adjunct to acupuncture. I think this approach allows the practitioner greater flexibility in their treatment strategy and personally, I often combine massage, acupuncture and herbs depending on the individual patient and their underlying pattern. The argument about whether a physiotherapist or GP should treat someone after a 2 weekend course is of course an important debate to have but I do not think it applies to Katie's initial post as she appears to be considering a much longer training.

Best wishes, Tony
 
"Finally, I notice you run a mobile service. This is particularly problematic for acupuncture, as it's quite difficult to manage the necessary cleanliness appropriate for acupuncture with cats jumping on the bed. Ask me how I know!"

Just use a laser instead. It's been around for a long time and I've read that for example an oral surgeon called Yo-Cheng Zhou used laser acupuncture anaesthesia to conduct over 10,000 tooth extractions between the 1950s and 70s.
 
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  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Lily๐Ÿ˜˜ - A petite tiny little Korean treat,
  38. Dreaminn:
    MONDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: AMY, LULU & SUGAR 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie) Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ AMY is a sweet and friendly Chinese vixen, 158Cms, 115Lbs, with C Cups and very willing to please. LULU is a well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim and beautiful with 34C Cups and incredible services. SUGAR
  39. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Jennifer๐Ÿ˜ is a beautiful young part-time student with a very sexy figure and big natural 34D breasts. She can give a great massage and very good open minded service. She knows how to please a man with her natural beauty and charm.
  40. Workpoint Massage & Wellness:
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  41. GoldenFlower:
    ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐™‚๐™Š๐™‡๐˜ฟ๐™€๐™‰ ๐™๐™‡๐™Š๐™’๐™€๐™ ๐™Ž๐™‹๐˜ผ๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’› 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿณ MONDAY at๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸGOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777Mika, Molly & Sherry. After 7pm: Sonia Mika is a sexy petite Vietnamese lady who can take good care of all your needs. Molly is a curvy Korean sweetheart with great services.
  42. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Young 19 Year Old Slim Petite Brazilian Hottie Julianna, New First Day Slim Petite Judy, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Vicky
  43. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ2 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ JENNY: A TALL AND SLIM KOREAN GIRL THAT IS A TOTAL SERVICE QUEEN ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  44. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ A THOUSAND PLEASURES AWAIT: EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธVIVIAN & JENNY JENNY has a medium build, nicely curved. Jenny has a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy. VIVIAN is camera shy & doesnโ€™t want to post a pic so far. She is young, attractive, and a must see for big boob lovers.
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Bella & Lisa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  47. Sunrise Health Centre:
    Summer, Mandy & Coco are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿ’„ It's Happy, Michelle & Hanna Today ~๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ: (647) 381-2688 ~ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious | Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Cuban girl ( new Young Light Sikh) and Asian girl cici in today
  50. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
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