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Thinking back to a simpler time - My first MPA

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I got to reminiscing recently and wanted to share my first MPA experience. I encourage you all to do the same!

It was 2011, and I was a student.
I used to always see this house by my place at the time that advertised massages. I decided to Google it after some time.
The place was called "101 Sheppard Spa" It was a 2 story house just east of Yonge and Sheppard.
I called them a few times and tried to gather some info but they never really answered much of anything on the phone. It was really the first time I saw a real rub n tug before and I was curious as hell.
I went on the website (thought their pics were real obviously) and decided on a girl.

Her name was Diana, and she worked Wednesdays and Saturdays.

So Saturday morning, right at 10AM when they open I showed up as their first client. I walked into a pretty messy house, not knowing what to expect. I asked to see Diana, and the other attendant told me she'll be with me in a minute. I awaited anxiously.
Finally, Diana shows up and my immediate reaction was "you're not the girl in the photos?" She was still pretty attractive, but just not what I had been expecting.
Diana asks how I know her, considering I was a young 19 year old guy but I tell her about the website and her pics. She smiles and takes me upstairs into the room.
She was wearing grey sweatpants (not baggy) and a white tank top with a black bra showing.
It was a fairly big room with a massage table in the middle and IIRC a shower on the left side of the room. I paid 40 for the room fee (I brought 80 because I wanted an hour massage but I wasnt sure if I had to tip)
She tells me to get undressed and I can shower if I like but I told her I showered right before I left my house and she says okay.

She comes back into the room and asks if I would like oil and I say yes. She then starts her massage and we start small talking. I learn a bit about her and she learns a bit about me. It was my first ever real massage so I was not really sure what happens. Eventually she she asked me if I would like to flip over and I did (with the towel now off). She then asked me what service I would like and how much $$$ I had. I told her I still had 40 dollars and she told me that gets me her in her panties. I told her yes and she changed in front of me.

She had phenomenal breasts, not huge, but maybe a D or a big C. She was tall, long black hair, pretty face, golden skinned and had a great ass. She was really fit. She was wearing these leopard print panties. It was a thong but not a g-string. She then rubbed some oil on me and started a really sensual HE. My balls were really sensitive at the time as most girls at that age didn't know how to play with them but she was really sensual and got me used to it.
I can't remember how long it lasted but it wasn't long. Maybe 5 mins tops and for a 19 year old getting his first HE from an experienced naked woman that's slightly impressive!
She finished me off and then continued with a bit of a massage and playing with my hair/scalp afterwards.

After time was up she gave me a water bottle and allowed me to get dressed and leave with a kiss on the cheek.
It was a great experience and started my hobbying. I always wish I went back to see her again but I never did unfortunately.

Hope you all enjoyed it! There's more details that I remember but this is already fairly long and I'm not the best writer.

Cheers
 

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My first mpa experinece was horrible. She doesnt know what she was doing. She would only do more a hj without taking clothes off. It was that spa at finch and midland. The white plaza
 
LOL I was scared that the place was a trap to by the police to catch people I also think the MPA might have thought I was a police officer by the way I was acting ( which sometimes happens to this day because of my physique ) so she testing me out by teasing me and seeing how I react.
 
I think I documented mine in my Reflections thread...

But, mine was pretty good and hooked me. Just as well cause I was getting tired of the strip club scene.
 
Honestly, I don't remember the very first MP experience. I don't know if my "cumming of age" was very different from other guys here...but I had a pretty good dating experience in my teens. I had girlfriends while I attended an all boy's school (that wasn't easy), and catholic girls are--or at least were--wonderfully horny in my teen years. But when I hit 19, I got my first car...and shortly thereafter tried my first street walker. After that I still dated and had steady relationships, but honestly the sexual excitement of picking up a girl, immediately getting what I wanted, and then going back for more, made it impossible for any girlfriend to compete sexually. My first MP was probably either the Hawaiian Isles Health Club or an Asian place just south of College on Spadina. Both were incredible dives and the HIHC was staffed by a middle aged creepy asian who used to go into a kind of trance when she jacked you off. Horrible really...but I had a limitless amount of horniness in me.

I think for me the true point at which I knew I would always be an MP guy arrived in the 90s when there was an influx of East European spas. For years I would approach the front door of many a spa with a tent pitched in my pants. There used to be a place at 4000 Steeles, I forget what it was called, but it had a blue awning sign. I walked in there one day dizzy with lust and met Ivana. I shit you not, she was built like an amazon. Huge tits, blonde hair, middle aged, but so deliciously ripe. You could tell she had been an incredible hottie in her youth and now her body was just beginning to show signs of aging. For me, that is a woman at her best with the right combination of beauty, experience and if you're lucky, lust. First, second and third session she pretended to not be in the "extras" game. But I and my rock hard bobbing cock wore her down. She would tell me about how she was not like the other women there, that she was only doing the MP gig until her book keeping business got going. Then, on the fourth session, everything happened. On the table, on the floor, over the easy chair in the corner, I bulled her till her perfect makeup was a mess. I'd been dreaming of having my cock between those big Czech tits of her and she surprised me by giving me one of my first bbbj dt's. First time I fucked a woman wearing stockings and it intensified that particular fetish for life.

Like you and I'm sure a lot of other guys here, I've thankfully have had hundreds of other such experiences in my MP career. It's been a helluva a lot of fun and if some day I get caught...well it's been worth it.
 
I went Montreal for a buddy’s bachelor party we decide to go to a MP, pretty good memory. After a year later I decide to try the MPs in Toronto.
 
OP brings back my memory - Diana @ 101 was my very first MPA after I moved to Toronto from BC. I've actually met few other great ladies including Yuki from the location.

Diana was great, I quickly became a regular and definitely one of my better experience, I still think of her once in a while along with few others who are done with MPA scene..
Would be great to reconnect with her again
 
Young is King. When I was 20+, having my first massage in a legit place, an interesting thing happened. The MPA moaned while massaging me. She apologized. I believe that was a real one. I imagine same could happen now but it will be 100% flake.
 
I did my research first on the red board. My first MPA was Angela @ IT. Quickly tried Alexis and Amber then went to HFH for Cameron and Tarah.
 
My first was a black woman af blue lagoon spa. I was 19 years old and I went by myself late at night after a bunch of us celebrated a birthday party at Kennedy’s strip clib. This was probably back around 2001ish. Time flies.
 
Mine must have been when I was around 22. Was browsing craigslist or back pages can’t remember what. Just broke up with my first gf and that’s how I started looking at this “hobby”. I ended up going to an independent by my house - fell for the pictures of some beautiful slender busty Russian but ended up being a larger older Russian lady with big tits still. She led me into her basement and I was nervous as hell and she asked my to undress. She started off the massage and kind of knew I was new to this so gave me a massage and small talk. Then she started sliding her hands down my crack and asked if I wanted anything else massaged and the rest is history. If only I could relive that first backdoor tease again lol
 
I got to reminiscing recently and wanted to share my first MPA experience. I encourage you all to do the same!

It was 2011, and I was a student.
I used to always see this house by my place at the time that advertised massages. I decided to Google it after some time.
The place was called "101 Sheppard Spa" It was a 2 story house just east of Yonge and Sheppard.
I called them a few times and tried to gather some info but they never really answered much of anything on the phone. It was really the first time I saw a real rub n tug before and I was curious as hell.
I went on the website (thought their pics were real obviously) and decided on a girl.

Her name was Diana, and she worked Wednesdays and Saturdays.

So Saturday morning, right at 10AM when they open I showed up as their first client. I walked into a pretty messy house, not knowing what to expect. I asked to see Diana, and the other attendant told me she'll be with me in a minute. I awaited anxiously.
Finally, Diana shows up and my immediate reaction was "you're not the girl in the photos?" She was still pretty attractive, but just not what I had been expecting.
Diana asks how I know her, considering I was a young 19 year old guy but I tell her about the website and her pics. She smiles and takes me upstairs into the room.
She was wearing grey sweatpants (not baggy) and a white tank top with a black bra showing.
It was a fairly big room with a massage table in the middle and IIRC a shower on the left side of the room. I paid 40 for the room fee (I brought 80 because I wanted an hour massage but I wasnt sure if I had to tip)
She tells me to get undressed and I can shower if I like but I told her I showered right before I left my house and she says okay.

She comes back into the room and asks if I would like oil and I say yes. She then starts her massage and we start small talking. I learn a bit about her and she learns a bit about me. It was my first ever real massage so I was not really sure what happens. Eventually she she asked me if I would like to flip over and I did (with the towel now off). She then asked me what service I would like and how much $$$ I had. I told her I still had 40 dollars and she told me that gets me her in her panties. I told her yes and she changed in front of me.

She had phenomenal breasts, not huge, but maybe a D or a big C. She was tall, long black hair, pretty face, golden skinned and had a great ass. She was really fit. She was wearing these leopard print panties. It was a thong but not a g-string. She then rubbed some oil on me and started a really sensual HE. My balls were really sensitive at the time as most girls at that age didn't know how to play with them but she was really sensual and got me used to it.
I can't remember how long it lasted but it wasn't long. Maybe 5 mins tops and for a 19 year old getting his first HE from an experienced naked woman that's slightly impressive!
She finished me off and then continued with a bit of a massage and playing with my hair/scalp afterwards.

After time was up she gave me a water bottle and allowed me to get dressed and leave with a kiss on the cheek.
It was a great experience and started my hobbying. I always wish I went back to see her again but I never did unfortunately.

Hope you all enjoyed it! There's more details that I remember but this is already fairly long and I'm not the best writer.

Cheers
I remember this place. It was actually the best spa I've been to and they had the best mpas. It was my first spa too.
 
My first massage was at srm we had a few beers at the Latin quarter my friend says let's go for a massage he tells me what goes on and I don't believe him so we go in I'm nervous as fuck and there's a nice blonde spinner working so I see her first she reaches in the desk for gloves like they use at the sub shop so buddy says to her he only wants a massage he doesn't want u to operate lol🤣 so she starts with the gloves on but it not working so I told her to take gloves off and we were off to the races lol hooked ever since (1996)
 
I kinda remember mine. What a noob I was. I remember trying to “research” by calling the spa and asking questions about the attendants and what pricing was like etc. Absolutely ridiculous lol. She kept saying “uh hunh, you come now I take care of you” to everything I asked. Also noob mistake was it was a spa that was walking distance from my my house. Stupid idiot. Anyway, went there a few more times until I learned she was the owners daughter and I was outta there lol. Moved on to exploring other places and made a couple of good connections along the way. Looking back...what a clown I must have looked.
 
I kinda remember mine. What a noob I was. I remember trying to “research” by calling the spa and asking questions about the attendants and what pricing was like etc. Absolutely ridiculous lol. She kept saying “uh hunh, you come now I take care of you” to everything I asked. Also noob mistake was it was a spa that was walking distance from my my house. Stupid idiot. Anyway, went there a few more times until I learned she was the owners daughter and I was outta there lol. Moved on to exploring other places and made a couple of good connections along the way. Looking back...what a clown I must have looked.

What's so bad about going to a spa within walking distance? Also, why is the fact she was the owner's daughter a concern? Just curious...
 
What's so bad about going to a spa within walking distance? Also, why is the fact she was the owner's daughter a concern? Just curious...
Proximity to home was a concern incase people I knew and neighbours saw me walking in and or out. Was just a paranoia that grew.
As for the owner daughter thing...just felt like potential trouble. Like if she wanted to go beyond what was allowed there would (perhaps) be an intensified retaliation etc. Again...paranoia. I know better now I think. Also that was over 10 years ago...with age comes (one would hope anyway), wisdom.
 
Ya my first MP visit (Blue Lagoon) did not go well. I got a black chick. Decent bod but meh facially and a bad attitude. Couldn't finish due to her jackhammer technique. She had the gall to ask for a tip. Hell to the no.
2nd visit a few months later (can't remember the spa) got a really cute white chick but she was so green and restrictive. Wouldn't even spit lube the cock. Again I didn't finish because she had zero sensuality.
3rd time was a visit to Allure to see Robin as Raquel was booked. Really cool chick nice vibe and could turn on the sensuality meter at the drop of a hat. She coaxed 2 shots out of me in the 45 min appointment. As they say 3rd time's a charm.
 
Here’s my first time—around 2007?

There used to be an MP on Gordon Baker in a industrial/office plaza. If anyone remembers the name, please let me know.

It was an Asian joint and I had done some research, but didn’t know what to expect or how to go about things, especially because I was new to Canada.

She was young, Chinese, not dressed in anything sexy, so I was worried this was a legit session and didn’t want to make any moves. After 15 minutes, I had accepted it would be nothing more and convinced myself that it was still fine, because she gave a thorough and relaxing massage. Just then, she started a light graze of the balls and asked if I wanted anything more?

The rest, as they say, is history.
 
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    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Summer😘, a very feminine woman, very sexy, affable and nice looking woman. Professional RMT Massage and provides great massages and incredible service. Must try the service of summer. Angel 💕 Very beautiful girl from Taiwan, very curvy, young and sexy
  28. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Young Sexy Chinese Jessica, Slim Chinese Lisa
  29. HolidaySpa:
    Tuesday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️: Eva & Helen. Eva is young, slim, innocent & demure looks, but don’t let her innocent looks deceive. She can massage & service very well. Helen is a sweet and very lovable Asian beauty with just enough curves to tease you, and an attitude to please you.
  30. ForeverWarden:
    Tuesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Tracy & Vivian. Cindy is on VACATION😢, and is expected to return around April 7😍. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5’1” and 100 lbs. She is very popular for her exotic massage, bbbj & cfs.
  31. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801,/8131Yonge st #203 / 3hot Asian girl today
  32. Sunrise Health Centre:
    💄Crystal & Michelle are here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEEN ZOE NOW AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…BLASIAN ALIYAH & SEX GODDESS ZOE
  34. New Oriental Health Centre:
    Vivian & Happy are here today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄 Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  35. bumika.vashi:
    AVAILABLE: NORTH EAST AND THAILAND GAL.LOCAL AND OTHER STATE AND BEAUTIFUL AUNTY,BHABI Ji. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to tell ur close frd's. Because your Su
  36. Bellagio Wellness &Spa:
    💗💗💗 ℍ𝔸ℙℙ𝕐 𝕄𝔸ℝℂℍ 💗💗💗🌟🌟🌟 MARCH 26th , 𝓣𝓤𝓔𝓢𝓓𝓐𝓨 🌟🌟🌟 ☎️ (905) 707-6866 🕙🌟🌟🌟Open 10:30-10:00🗺#33-160 East Beaver Creek 🗺 7 Rms 🛏🌟🌟🌟Table Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, 🌟🌟🌟$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min 🌟🌟🌟Attendants: We have 6️⃣ today 🍀🍀🍀 🌹🆕 LILIAN 🌹🆕 CHERRY 🌹 CRYSTAL 🌹🆕 SUNNY 🌹🆕 SOPHIE 🌹 LUCY 🍀🍀🍀 NEWSFLASH 🍀🍀🍀 🆕 LILIAN & 🆕 SOPHIE & CRYSTAL & 🆕 SUNNY & 🆕 CHERRY ‘ s BACK 🍀🍀🍀 TODAY 🍀🍀🍀
  37. Apexking:
    Moon Moon spa
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥SUPER HOT KOREAN SUMMER
  39. SpringGreen.:
    Today we have 5 girls on Monday:New white girl Ana young student,💋💋 Sabrina - Service queen with a banging body that is sure to make heads turn. Angel - innocent GND looks that has a very sensual side to warm things up Coco - Spunky fun in a nice package...
  40. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  41. Meadows Wellness Spa:
    💄Yoyo is here today. Call/Text: (905) 770-7555 😍 Yoyo is a 25 years old Petite Chinese Girl. She offers good massage & Extra services. Call NOW to Book...👄 Walk in @ 10225 Yonge Street In the heart of Richmond Hill.💥
  42. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  43. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ CAMILLA, KAJAL, LILY and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥KOREAN SUMMER AND SEX GODDESS ZOE🔥
  45. Sunrise Health Centre:
    💄Hanna is here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  46. New Oriental Health Centre:
    Happy is in today💄~📞Call 📲 Text: (647) 381-2688 💄 Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious 🍑 Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  47. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Cici😘A very beautiful and sexy little fangirl, she has a sexy and petite figure, Cici’s service is first-class, worth having and trying, she belongs to the elite👍She is very friendly, very cute and an exquisite little model. Mia😍 is beautiful part time student
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have young 4 beautiful girls are working today , young sexy open mind Tina and young cute Tiffany with big buttocks , pretty GFE Ella and friendly Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇Young Slim 19 Year old Sexy Brazilian Girl Julianna, Young Sexy Chinese Jessica, Slim Chinese Lisa
  50. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Persian girl and 2 Asian girl (new) in Monday
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