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i just recently got into oils, i have oils been into candles and incense but stayed away from oils cuz of the coast, anyhow i ended up giving it a try with some cheap oil and burner and discovered i love it more then candles or incense or anything and now im hooked, i dont know to much about essential oils yet but i was at this shop the other day and this guy helping me was talking about i need to dillute my oils with grapeseed oil, so i got some grapeseed oil and tryed a few essential oils, my question is he also said you can wear them, i was confused is there certain oils made for burning and certain for wearing or do all oils serve the same purpose?
 
You can get perfume oils for burning, but these are just chemical copies of various scents, with no therapeutic value. Real essential oils are very concentrated extracts from plants which can be put in a burner (a few drops in some water), or blended in a base product such as grapeseed oil, cream or lotion, or even put into the bath (maxium 8 drops).

There are varying qualities of oils and varying prices. The best thing would be for you to get yourself a basic aromatherapy book so that you can understand the principals. Bear in mind that some oils are contraindicated in certain conditions, eg. pregnancy, epilepsy, high blood pressure, etc.

Lesley
 
Lesley makes some great observations. The majority of oils out there are synthetic. The quality varies drastically. My recomendation is to use 100% therapeutic grade oils, which are more expensive, and will influence your emotional centre at a much deeper level. They also have medicinal properties. Believe me, you only have to open the bottle to notice the difference. Again, depending on the quality, the oils I use can all be applied directly to the skin, no carrier oils needed. Also with the quality you do not need to use as much of the oil as with lower grades.When diffusing, ideally oils should not be heated, though if you do not have a diffuser, put a drop in warm water.

Whatever route you choose with them, enjoy it!
 
yeh im mostly into burning them, i dont really care to wear them on my skin or to get aroma thearpy out of them, i just like the smell, but this could all change like i said im a begginer i have just been playing with it. So is it bad to burn the oils im burning, i read somewhere that some oils are harmfull and that 75% oils on the market are scams and not the real thearaputic natural safe oils and it kinda made me scared to burn oils, i burn them everyday as long as im in my room so i figure if there bad im probly picking up some bad health problems from this.

im gona go back to this shop tomarrow to get a refill on one of my oils and on the way home ill stop at borders books and see if i can find something.

thanks for the help
 
To be honest, burning the oils is the least concentrated way of absorbing them, so you probably won't be doing yourself any harm.

I wouldn't recommend anyone using oils neat on the skin if they haven't been trained to do so.

Lesley
 
ok i have another question, when i use a carrier oil like my grapeseed the guy told me to put 3 quarters of the bowl carrier oil and then use about 5 drops in that, and that seemed like alot of dillution to me so i have been useing like 1 quarter of the bowl grapeseed and like 3 drops and its been working out, but after the 3 drops burns up its gone, do i need to change the grapeseed oil before i add a new oil or can i just put my new oil in the same grapeseed, cuz it would seem like a waste, that grapeseed doesnt really evaporate so i could get alot of uses out of one bowl of it?
 
Hi there, always nice to hear of someone getting into using oils. I understand why you don't want to waste grapeseed oil. I have always used water to dilute oils in a diffuser not oil. 3/4 fill the bowl with water and then add the essentialoils as before. I've never heard of using oil in a diffuser and just wondered if anybody who has noticed a difference between this and water. To be honest I don't think I would feel safe using pure oil so near a naked flame.

Amandas
 
Please don't use carrier oil in a burner as it is dangerous - it would be like a frying pan!

Only use water in a burner withtwo or threedrops of essential oil. Grapeseed or other carrier oil is used when massaging the oil (5 drops per 10ml maximum).

Lesley
 
Totally agree with Aromababe here, please don't use carrier or base oils it is dangerous and surely must make a sticky mess.

Just another thought, you said you were getting a refill for your essential oils. It is worth checking that the oils are being decanted from dark glass bottles. If possible check when the bottle was opened and if there is a sell by date, also ask to see the botantical and safety information as true essential oils shouldn't be sold without this. I'm sure your oils are fine, but I want to make sure you are not being ripped off and your retailer knows what they are selling (I was just a little concerned about some of their advice).

Any questions, we are always here to help out.

Have fun experimenting!
 
Hey thanks alot, i have been looking for a good forum like this forever and im glad i found such great help.
yeh at first i thought it was overboard on how much these oils coast, you can buy 5 bottles of 5/8 dram for 20 bucks and these bottles are tiny, and then its 1 dram for 15, im sure if i look around i could find something better quailty for the same price or less, i have seen oils on the net for way cheaper then that and there 1/2 ounce, its just kinda hard cuz im finding out each supplier has its own kinda scent, like one nag champa will smell a little different from someone elses brand, from my experience, anyway i watch them refill my bottles and they pull the stuff out right under the desk and its in a clear plastic bottle, i read on the net to keep it away from heat and in dark places to keep its aroma, i would like to try to find a new supplier where i can try some new stuff, unless you think that im doing fine where im at, i just need a little help to get goin here.

thanks
 
aright i just tryed the water and the oil like floated on top and i didint see any smoke coming out and i couldint really smell it, although they said thes oils were perfume oils not essential oils and if i remember right the internet said essential oils are the strongest and need to be diluted, im more for the pure strong smell that lasts a while, so idk if i can get much more power out of these oils as i would like, so should i try some pure essential oils or just burn these perfume oils straight with no dilution?
 
Hi there loveforoils,

Am loving this thread - you've got some great questions here.

The pure organic essential oils are way more powerful than the perfume quality oils.
2-5 drops in water will last all day (dependent on the size of your room!)

In fact 1 drop in a mug of warm water will last for 2-3 hours minimum.

I would advise against burning any oils- this is similar to putting bread in a toaster - completely changes the properties.

Re: books:
There are 4 schools of thought within aromatherapy-
1.The French prescribe essential oils for therapy, apply therapeutic grade oils neat, and take them internally. Not recommended with the vast majority of oils available in the UK which are pre-diluted and synthetic, high in synthetic phenols, etc.
2.The Germans use oils for the aroma, which sounds like the style you may beinterested in.
3.The Brits (UK) for relaxing aroma massage - primarily by diluting synthetic oils with a carrier oil such as grapeseed, and adulterating them further by burning them.
4.The Americans, who tend to have a similar practice to the Brits, but with a wider range of quality to their oils. Many of their oils are 100% organic therapeutic grade, which they then use for therapy, and apply neat, however, like us they also have no regulation, and also have the cheaper non-organic, synthetic oils, which they use for relaxation with massage.


Most of the books available are geared towards the standard practices with oils dependent on the country of publication. UK books will therefore give a large amount of contra-indications to application of neat oils, etc - purely because the quality of oils is not widely available here, and therefore the research done in the UK is biased to synthetic oils.

Books by people such as Dr Jean Valnet - "Aromatherapie" will therefore be completely contradictory of books by people like Valerie Worwood or Shirley Price.

As with foods, Oils vary in price dependent on quality, and whether they are organic or not.
However, as you noted, the quality shows, and the better the quality, the longer the bottle will last, you need less oils for a more sustained, more powerfull exerience.
 
that was alot to take in, it sounds like you know your stuff though.

so if i understood that right you say your against burning oils?

im confused what synthetic and neat and all thouse terms are?

my room is about 12 by 14.

im not really looking for the aromathearpy style burning i just like how it smells in my room so is there any sites you can hook me up with where i can get some quality oils, cuz your right this perfume oil isnt cut'n it, it dies quick and its not to strong?

Thanks
 
Just wanted to say how interesting I'm finding this thread. Its really got me thinking about the different uses essential oils have.

Amandas
 
Explaination ofthe jargon.

Yes I am absolutely against buring oils.

1-2 drops sholuld last you a good few hours in a 12x14 room.

Synthetic - Many commercially retailed oils are produced with the aid of chemical solvents, and as such are synthetic - not 100% natural. Personally I would tend to stay away from these oils, again, the solvents interfere with the actual oil. Alternatively they are pre-diluted, again greatly reducing the quality.

Neat - This is application of oils undilutedby a base or carrier oil - usually a vegetable oil such as grapeseed. Most UK aromatherapists will only advise diluting with a carrier oil, as I mentioned, due to the low grade of most oil brands available here.
 
If an essential oil's chemical compounds include a dermal irritant, the oil should not be used neat, it is not an indication of low grade of most brands, it can be an indication of good quality essential oils. Oils such as thyme with it's high thymol content and oregano are dermal irritants and should not be used neat, yet it's quite common practice in Raindrop therapy,most commonly found in the US, where they say the burning sensation is an indication of toxins being released - but if you look at the chemistry of the essential oils the "heat" is actually a chemical burn.
Most American's think aromatherapy is about making bathrooms smell nice and supposedly therapeutic grade essential oils come from multi-level marketing companies targeted at the bible belt supplying books like Essential Oils of the Bible with the bottles so people don't think it's some pagan ritual because they don't understand the power of essential oils. Aromatherapy in the US is about 20 years behind the UK in recognition, qualifications and regulations, hardly any organic oils are readily available, and the most commonly found supposedly "therapeutic grade" oils are from multi-level marketing companies.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐”ธโ„™โ„๐•€๐•ƒ ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ APRIL 19th , Fฬฝอ“Rฬฝอ“Iฬฝอ“Dฬฝอ“Aฬฝอ“Yฬฝอ“ ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 6๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน SOPHIE ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• OLIVIA ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• SUNNY ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• TINA ๐ŸŒน CHERRY ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ SOPHIE & ๐Ÿ†• SUNNY & ๐Ÿ†• TINA & ๐ŸŒน CHERRY ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• OLIVIA โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
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  31. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน ๐ŸŒนJessica and Cici. Guys come over and try the table shower body slide. It's super enjoyable๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  32. Sparkling Spa:
    SEXY ZOE & MUI CALIENTE STELLA TODAY @ SPARKLING SPA!!! 50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave)โœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS
  33. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, LUCY, ANAYA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  34. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  35. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Cuban girl (Mimi) and New Asian (Apple) in today
  36. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new pretty cute Sally and GFE Ivy with curve body,sexy Coco and cute Ella open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Candy, Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  40. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful sexy
  41. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinede Judy, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Vicky, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, LUCY, ANAYA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: LULU, MELODY & SUGAR 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie) Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim & beautiful, 5โ€™3โ€, 105 pounds with 34C Cups & incredible services. MELODY is young, slim and slightly curvy, 5โ€™3โ€ and 105 pounds, hourglass sexy shape, and delicious
  44. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ SELINA: A TALL AND SLENDER ASIAN GIRL, VERY FRIENDLY AND ABLE TO PROVIDE AN RMT LIKE MASSAGE ๐ŸŒธ NANCY: A PETITE CURVY YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL THAT IS VERY FUN AND OPEN MINDED ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  45. GoldenFlower:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป GOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป ๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jessi, Jojo, Sherry & Sonia Jessi is a slim and petite Vietnamese hotty who is garnering repeat visits. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian sweetie.
  46. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธHelen & Jenny. Helen is a sweet and very lovable Asian beauty with just enough curves to tease you, and an attitude to please you. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    SUPER HOT STELLA & SERVICE QUEEN ZOE @ Sparkling Spa๐Ÿ‘ŒMENTION OUR ADS AND RECEIVE A ROOM DISCOUNT $35 FOR 30MIN, $50 FOR 45MINโ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8
  50. bumika.vashi:
    (((เค†เคชเค•เฅ‹ เคฌเคฟเคจเคพ เคจเคพเคŸเค• เคฏเคพ เคจเค–เคฐเฅ‡ เค•เคฐเคจเฅ‡ เคตเคพเคฒเคพ เคธเคฐเฅเคตเคฟเคธ เคšเคพเคนเฅ‡ เคคเฅ‹เคน เคฏเคพเคฆ เค•เคฐเคจเคพ. ))) If you want Service without Drama or Tantrums, Remember it. Will Try To Give You The Best Possible Sweating Experience With Full Company. TAKE MY WORD.?? Don't Waste Your Time And Money In Some Other Place Where You are Really Upset Loosing Out Both Money And Fun. Ok Try With Our Girls Once Then Your Visit Will Be Regular To Me.... _________________N O T E_________________ If u like my services Please Please Do not forget to
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