Is this the spark to get the fire going again?

[Vince44]

Hair salons and barbershops are reopening — but your visit won’t be the same | Globalnews.ca

There are still many questions around safety and haircuts, and how both clients and stylists can protect themselves against exposure to COVID-19.

globalnews.ca

Hair salons and barbershops are reopening — but your visit won’t be the same

Will this signal an opening of other services

 

[luvnewpussy]

Yes..

This is very positive

 

[hangul99]

Not comparable to Ontario. Cases in western Canada where salons are opening are much lower than Ontario.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Yeah, it was actually one of the reasons I felt somewhat okay venturing out today. You obviously have to trust the person "trimming your hair",but with precautions, I think this is the way forward...

We have come to now believe that ALL asymptomatic people will invariably cause us illness and we will die, if we are within 6 feet of them. I believe this perspective is inaccurate and is now causing more harm than good.

It has been 60 days. SIXTY FRIGGIN DAYS.. LET THAT SINK IN.

If someone has been asymptomatic for those ENTIRE 60 DAYS, and has been CAREFUL ABOUT THEIR CONTACTS, and WEARS PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT WHEN THEY MASSAGE YOUR BACK AND GENITALS, I'm thinking, the chances of you contracting Coronavirus (though not impossible) are very very small, and then dying, also small (and unlikely).

It's a game of risk. It's a new risk to living.

Yes, if someone is living with a Covid person, don't get their haircut.

But for crying out loud. Who are these 300 people (out of 15,000,000) getting Covid every day? Do we know ANYTHING about them? "Community Spread" - we have no clue how they got Covid. Were they all self-isolating? So the virus just jumped from the light switch, after having festered for 60 days??

Just because it's been 60 days, the virus hasn't been eradicated. The virus is still alive, travelling from person to person. And it will continue to stay alive until there is a vaccine. Once there's a vaccine, the virus won't be able to live inside a person. So then the virus will no longer be spread through people. Once the Corona virus will stop spreading, there will be another disease to worry about.

 

[Sybarite]

Just because it's been 60 days, the virus has been eradicated. The virus is still alive, travelling from person to person. And it will continue to stay alive until there is a vaccine. Once there's a vaccine, the virus won't be able to live inside a person. So then the virus will longer be spread through people. Once the Corona virus will stop spreading, there will be another disease to worry about.

A vaccine doesn't end the disease, since there will always be unvaccinated people still catching and spreading it.

And people who hate immigrants are unlikely to get vaccinated...

Coronavirus may never go away, World Health Organization warns

Experts say the disease may become embedded in populations in the same way that HIV has.

www.bbc.com

The coronavirus "may never go away", the World Health Organization (WHO) has warned.
Speaking at a briefing on Wednesday, WHO emergencies director Dr Mike Ryan warned against trying to predict when the virus would disappear.
He added that even if a vaccine is found, controlling the virus will require a "massive effort"....

"It is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away," Dr Ryan told the virtual press conference from Geneva.

"HIV has not gone away - but we have come to terms with the virus."
Dr Ryan then said he doesn't believe "anyone can predict when this disease will disappear".

Get Ready for a Vaccine Information War (Published 2020)

Social media is already filling up with misinformation about a Covid-19 vaccine, months or years before one even exists.

www.nytimes.com

when the time comes to persuade billions of people to take a critical coronavirus vaccine, our public health officials and social media companies will be outgunned by a well-oiled anti-vaccine movement that has already polluted the air with misinformation and conspiracy theories.

 

[henricas]

Hair salons and barbershops are reopening — but your visit won’t be the same
Will this signal an opening of other services

The Article cites western Canada, In Ontario is very different scenario

If someone has been asymptomatic for those ENTIRE 60 DAYS, and has been CAREFUL ABOUT THEIR CONTACTS, and WEARS PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT WHEN ......
......
But for crying out loud. Who are these 300 people (out of 15,000,000) getting Covid every day? Do we know ANYTHING about them? "Community Spread" - we have no clue how they got Covid. Were they all self-isolating? So the virus just jumped from the light switch, after having festered for 60 days??

Those who are asymptomatic are active for 4 days then get sick. No-one stays asymptomatic for 60 days, Although some are believe to stay asymptomatic for up to 10 days.

When you ask who are the 300 it sounds like you don't believe this is truth, a lie of this magnitude would take the entire globe to agree in a lie, it's almost impossible to get several people to agree in anything MUCH LESS the entire population of the world

This thing is real, I have friends in Chile, Colombia , Mexico, L.A. New Jersey, New York, Minnesota, Spain, Italy, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam and Singapore They all report the same, cases are abundant, dead is everywhere.

My Nephew and his wife, who live in Spain; both got Covid fortunatly they got better and no hospitalization was needed.

Here In Markham; I know of a friend whose husband got Covid, she drove him to the hospital once he could not breath, after they got to the hospital; we heard nothing more from them. no calls, no texts, I believe they kept her in, it has been 18 days since.

No virus lives for 60 days then jumps LOL. Covid is one of the longest viruses able to remain dormant. 4 days in metals 3 in plastic, 2 days in wood etc, etc.

.... The virus is still alive, travelling from person to person. And it will continue to stay alive until there is a vaccine. Once there's a vaccine, the virus won't be able to live inside a person. ...

A vaccine is a diluted version of the virus or a syntetic version of it. once you are vaccinated, your body goes to work on the virus and creates antibodies that keep you inmune.
So a vaccine does not kill the virus.
Currently several countries have isolated and kill the virus (Israel, Germany, The US) these are not good for vaccination, if you kill the virus your body would not know how to combat it in the future.

The coronavirus "may never go away", the World Health Organization (WHO) has warned. .... ...

"It is important to put this on the table: this virus may become just another endemic virus in our communities, and this virus may never go away," Dr Ryan told the virtual press conference from Geneva.

"HIV has not gone away - but we have come to terms with the virus."
Dr Ryan then said he doesn't believe "anyone can predict when this disease will disappear".

It is the Job of the WHO to give us the worst case scenario, Other doctors and scientitsts work from that premise.

Sicknesses don't go away, but they cease being a threat. The Spanish flu, the bubonic plague, leprosy are very scary sicknesses that no longer posed a threat to the public.

Comparing Covid to HIV is unrelated since HIV was not cured because there was no real money in it. Remember it flourish in Africa stayed there for several years and even when it spread was mild.

My observations
Not all who catch Covid will die, some don't get sick at all, some get mildly sick, a few get hospitalized even fewer die.

These viruses are mutating. The original Wuhan virus mutated in white people and it mutated again in black people, They think is mutating in children as well. but al symptoms point to an over active inmune system

Is also believed that even if you have antibody Covid-19 you will get it again since the virus is mutating.

A safe vaccine is years away. we may have a vaccine soon but it won't be tested properly. (for side -effects)

The only thing that would give me total peace of mind would be if ALL 38 million Canadians get tested and the ill are isolated till no longer active. second peace of mind, Ontario's 13.5 million get tested. Failing all these, at least your community; Toronto has 6.2 Million, mine has 1 mill people, but testing is slow in Ontario. South Korea, Singapore and Vietnam Tested ALL their citizens. Wuhan is planning to re-test all 11 Million inhabitants but in Ontario this is VERY SLOW .... hmmmm.

After tests, the border would have to be closed specially to our neighbors to the south since they are the epicenter of the disease and refuse to take measures. They are heading for bigger and wider spread of the disease. Anyone travelling into the country should be tested AT THE AIRPORT before accessing the community and if sick should be isolated.

When I return to see the girls, and I will; I gonna need to see strong SAFETY MEASURES is not only me I have to worry about but other members of my family and my community.

 

[xtc27]

...agnostic vaccine...may never find effective one...

...but mABs... coming soon...

monoclonal antibodies

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

 

[Sybarite]

Those who are asymptomatic are active for 4 days then get sick. No-one stays asymptomatic for 60 days, Although some are believe to stay asymptomatic for up to 10 days.

I'm guessing what you mean to say here is that people who are asymptomatic are not contagious after 60 days. But it's important to note that fully asymptomatic people don't get "sick" at all, even though they have been infected. They never have any symptoms at all after four days, ten days or any length of time. They never knew they had it... that's why they're asymptomatic.

Scientists are guessing asymptomatic cases could be a quarter of everyone infected. For the other 75% of people who do have symptoms, their viral load and thus their contagiousness is typically highest right before they get sick and show any symptoms. So in other words if you're infected on day one and you start showing signs of being sick on day 5, you are actually most contagious on day four before you can feel there's anything wrong with you.

It is the Job of the WHO to give us the worst case scenario, Other doctors and scientitsts work from that premise.

Sicknesses don't go away, but they cease being a threat. The Spanish flu, the bubonic plague, leprosy are very scary sicknesses that no longer posed a threat to the public.

Of course we want to hope for the best, but hope is not a plan, so it's wise to plan public policy around plausible scientific outcomes. It's true some illnesses cease being a threat but others don't, and this is a very realistic possibility for COVID-19. If immunity after being infected is not long lasting and a vaccine is not found this could be a part of our health landscape year after year, like HIV. And the record for successful vaccine development so far was four years for mumps.

These viruses are mutating. The original Wuhan virus mutated in white people and it mutated again in black people, They think is mutating in children as well. but al symptoms point to an over active inmune system.

Really? The virus has mutated in black people? Would love if you post a link about that.

 

[smallpantieshk]

Not comparable to Ontario. Cases in western Canada where salons are opening are much lower than Ontario.

Yet Quebec is all cavalier about it

 

[Sybarite]

Here's a scenario you may be interested in:

In late May 2003, studies were conducted using samples of wild animals sold as food in the local market in Guangdong, China. The results found that the SARS coronavirus could be isolated from masked palm civets (Paguma sp.), even if the animals did not show clinical signs of the virus. The preliminary conclusion was the SARS virus crossed the xenographic barrier from asian palm civet to humans, and more than 10,000 masked palm civets were killed in Guangdong Province. The virus was also later found in raccoon dogs (Nyctereuteus sp.), ferret badgers (Melogale spp.), and domestic cats. In 2005, two studies identified a number of SARS-like coronaviruses in Chinese bats.[53][54]
Phylogenetic analysis of these viruses indicated a high probability that SARS coronavirus originated in bats and spread to humans either directly or through animals held in Chinese markets. The bats did not show any visible signs of disease but are the likely natural reservoirs of SARS-like coronaviruses. In late 2006, scientists from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention of Hong Kong University and the Guangzhou Centre for Disease Control and Prevention established a genetic link between the SARS coronavirus appearing in civets and humans, bearing out claims that the disease had jumped across species.[55]
In December 2017, "after years of searching across China, where the disease first emerged, researchers reported ... that they had found a remote cave in Yunnan province, which is home to horseshoe bats that carry a strain of a particular virus known as a coronavirus. This strain has all the genetic building blocks of the type that triggered the global outbreak of SARS in 2002." The research was performed by Shi Zheng-Li, Cui Jie and coworkers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, China, and published in PLOS Pathogens. The authors are quoted as stating that "another deadly outbreak of SARS could emerge at any time. As they point out, the cave where they discovered their strain is only a kilometre from the nearest village."[3]

This just pisses me off.... Our govt's knew, China knew..
Most people in China are disgusted with wet markets, It's only a minority few who are in favor - Regulation is needed and what is finally happening.
STOP THE SALE OF LIVE, WILD ANIMALS!!! - BAN THE ANNUAL DOG MEAT FESTIVAL..
I have an incredible desire and attraction for / to Chinese women. This kind of stuff hacks at the cords that bind me to them..
Cmon CCP - get your act together eh!!

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If that was the genesis of the disease, pretty amazing to think how different the world would be right now if one particular animal and human didn't happen to be at some exact place at some exact time the very moment this whole thing started.

But I think a lot of guys on here would try to make a case to say no it was purposely designed in a lab by the Chinese, or by Bill Gates to make money, or somehow by Fauci or Obama or Hillary to beat Trump, etc. etc. etc.

 

[snoopdoggie]

If that was the genesis of the disease, pretty amazing to think how different the world would be right now if one particular animal and human didn't happen to be at some exact place at some exact time the very moment this whole thing started.

But I think a lot of guys on here would try to make a case to say no it was purposely designed in a lab by the Chinese, or by Bill Gates to make money, or somehow by Fauci or Obama or Hillary to beat Trump, etc. etc. etc.

Anyone who would want to make that case, (Ursus), is crazier than crazy.