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Can energy be used as a contraindication?

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another thread was talking about contraindications and licensing i was wondering with all the use of enery to heal ect. ect. could that also be used as an oppisite and be considered a contraindication?. I know what i believe i wanted to stir the minds.........
 
I'm not sure what you mean? ย But, as far as I know, energy work is always safe and has no contraindications. ย Anne, Reiki Master
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

If I understand your question correctly, from all that I have learned, when massage is contraindicated, energy work in most cases is perfectly fine. The only time I can think of where it could be a problem (and even then I can't see why it would be) would be if the client has a major heart condition. I know of other MTs who use energy work in terminal cases and have had no problem.
 
The only contraindication I know of is in certain truama cases, like the loss of a body part, that may be able to be reattached. I have heard a story, and I think I read about another one ย that the energy worked healed a little too well, and the piece almost could not be reattached. (In this case fingers).JennReiki Master
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

I can certainly see your point, puamaeole. If you can use energy to heal, why could you not use it to harm? Isn't that the fundamental concept behind black magic? Voodoo? I would hope that anyone who is involved in this kind of work would not want to use it that way.....
 
very good merle my point, yes i'm not even refering to black magic or vodoo, just intent in and of itself. ย i have had people touch me and their energy alone made me throw up. ย interesting........... ย i just wanted people who are stuck on things that are seen and making policies, to remember what we can't see.......... ย 
 
ย  ย As a reiki II practioner, I've been told that you shouldn't ย try to send reiki to someone while they are being put under anesthesia. It has something to do with making it harder to put someone "under." ย  ย As for the rest--energy knows where it is needed. It goes to where the problem areas are and does whatever it can. I personally don't believe that reiki energy can harm. Reiki in itself is not a harmful practice--rather it is beneficial. People, however, choose their own path--I don't think that reiki can be converted to the wrong path due to attunements and the geneology of the practice. I DO believe, for the same reason, that someone should find out the history and training of the instructors and practitioners in charge of giving attunements!Val
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

You cannot send anyone bad Reiki, it is impossible. Even if you are mad a the person, only good energy is transmitted.However there are other forms of energy work that negative energies can be transmitted.
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

Sorry, but I have a hard time with impossible. A lot of impossible things have happened. To paraphrase an old saying: If it can be thought, it can be done.In any event, as we all know, energy is in every cell of our body. I believe energy can be directed consciously/subconsciously into the, through, and around our clients. That is why I don't recommend working with someone with whom you have a particularly bad history - unless you are both trying to work something out.
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

ย i have had people touch me and their energy alone made me throw up. ย interesting........... ย 

I've had this happen too. ย One severe reaction I had was in a massage class where i had to throw up afterwards, and then felt fine. ย It turned out the student had had a kidney transplant and was on heavy duty rejection drugs for the rest of her life.
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

So sorry for her! That must suck.I agree that impossible is a pretty strong word, especially when dealing with something intangible like energy.
 
Ok, maybe was impossible was a little strong ย :-[, but I was talking specifically about Reiki. The attunement process and the type of energy work that it is, makes it very difficult to send negative energy. Let me say it is improbable to send negative energy intead. ย :-/ Energy from Reiki flows through you not from you, which is why it is improbable to send negative energy. You are not generating the energy flow, just plugging yourself in. Its kind of like plugging an appliance into a wall, it is using the energy that is already there, not generating its own.However, I did mention that this does not hold true for other forms of energy work. There are many types of energy work, many of them very possible to send a lot of negative energy. Many types of energy work come from one's self, often delpleating your own energy. When you use your own energy, it makes it much easier to send negativity.And of course, it is possible to send two different types of energy at once. Does that make it a little clearer?Jenn
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

I think it's important to distinguish between Reiki and other types of energy work in this discussion. No matter what "story" one wants to put to it, the general consensus is that Reiki can't be used for harm. Whether folks believe that's because it has its own Universal Intelligence, comes straight from the Christian God, or that powerful beings guide Reiki and its use (all stories I've heard from different people, btw), I would put my bettin' money against those who want to try -- go ahead, just try ;-) -- to use Reiki for harm.Having said that, I wouldn't use Reiki on things like unset dislocations, fresh broken bones, severed parts, etc for the reason mentioned previously: get things physically aligned before initiating/speeding up the healing process. Also, clients should be made aware that Reiki has the potential to intensify, even if shortening the duration of, any acute symptoms they might be experiencing... even if just a cold or flu. I've heard it suggested that Reiki may be best applied at the early onset or tail end of such conditions if the client won't be able (e.g. because of work schedule, obligations) to make time and space for such healing. Sometimes it's more in line with a client's goals to go through a week of mild symptoms than to have to take a day off work to really be sick and then be done with it.But I definitely think the client's intention affects how it plays out. NOW, as for other types of energy work... I believe some can be used in other ways. Chi is certainly manipulated by advanced martial artists to ends other than the therapeutic bodywork done in Shiatsu ;-) But I don't think we can generalize about "energy work" as if there were no differences between the different modalities.
 
I've been wondering about this. ย I had a regular client who suffered from CFS and Fibromyalgia. ย I had had positive reiki effects with him wherein the constant pain in his feet dissapeared for a while, surprising both of us. ย The very last time I worked on him, He said he had intestinal discomfort. I massaged it gently and reiki'd it and if felt like my hand and thumb was a funnel pouring energy into his 2nd chackra. ย Then time was up and I had to let him go. He said he felt better, and not as sick feeling anymore. ย But now I wonder if perhaps I didn't ground him well enough, bacause not too long after that, he sunk into a deep depression. ย He's had them before, but never that deep. He stopped coming to the chiro, stopped getting massage, and I haven't seen him in over 6 months. ย Do you think the Reiki could have pushed him over an edge?
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

This is from a book written to Doctors about Complimentary and Alternative Medicine...Reiki specifically...There are no knowsn contraindications to Reiki treamtnets. However, some patients may experience increased gastrointestinal activity, sinus drainage or lightheadness with treatment. Indications for ReikiAlleviate painStimulate the immune systemRelieve stress and release emotional blockagesAccelerate the natural healing response.Energywork in general...There are no absolute contraindications for the use of energy treatments. Biofeeld therapy's major problems would be "sins of omission." Could there be an undiagnosed illness that might be better treated through standard medical treatments? In seroius cases like this, energy therapy should be used adjunctively. It may not be a suitable substitute of standard medical care. Information obtained during the healing process should be verified with diagnostic tests whenever possible. The practitioner may be at medicolegal risk if the patient's health declines despite the health benefits, the benign nature of the treatment and written and informed consent.Indications...Reducing pain and inflammationSpeeding healing time of surgical procedures, wounds, fractures and infectionsHelping with autoimmune disordersImproving chronic conditions like diabetes, hypertension, arthritis and MSDecreasing depression, ansiety, obsessions and other neuropsychiatric disordersPhysical rehabilitation to decrease fatigue, increase strength and enhance general well-being.
 
To Sharp regarding the client going into deep depression. ย He may be going thru a big shift. ย I had several Reiki sessions that were very powerful. ย I broke out in a huge sweat and shaking uncontrolably during one session. ย I drank about a gallon of water that day. ย I was going thru a tough time personally. ย But, over time, I released allot, moved thru the changes and came out the other side a new person. ย We all have our dark periods and Reiki or not we will experience them. ย The Reiki you gave him may be giving him the power to go thru what he needs to go thru anyway, possibly more quickly. ย Birthing is never easy, you know. ย Reiki does only good. ย If he was on your table, he was ready for it. My opionion, of course. ย You can continue to send him Reiki remotely. ย He may need time to assimilate the changes initiated by the Reiki. ย Open to thoughts about this.
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

YES, I ย BELIEVE SO. IN DOING ENERGY WORK FRO OVER 20 YEARS, IN CERTAIN CASES IT CAN CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS FOLLOWING SPECIFIC KINDS OF TREATMENT.

LOOK AT YOUR CLI8ENT OVERALL AND SEE A HISTORY FIRST BEFORE TREATING.IF CLIENT HAS HAD MAJOR WORK IN LESS THAN A WEEK, TAKE ABREAK OF AWEEK BEFORE TREATING.ย 
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

Reiki has a few instances that it should not be used:Broken bones till they get setChemotherapy till it is in the bodyElectronics such as a pacemaker or hearing aidMedicinemanRM/T
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

it depends on the intention of the mind directing the energy work ;)
 
Can energy be used as a contraindication?

You guys are all way in your head. Energy work is NEVER contraindicated when it comes from the heart. That requires BEING IN SERVICE totally, not in some "head space, technical" place. Licensing? are you kidding? how ridiculous can it get? licensing one's INTENTION??? on second thought, maybe if we required everyone to have a license to THINK we might be onto something....;)
 
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    ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ„๐”ธโ„™โ„™๐• ๐”ธโ„™โ„๐•€๐•ƒ ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ APRIL 19th , Fฬฝอ“Rฬฝอ“Iฬฝอ“Dฬฝอ“Aฬฝอ“Yฬฝอ“ ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 707-6866 ๐Ÿ•™๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸOpen 10:30-10:00๐Ÿ—บ#33-160 East Beaver Creek ๐Ÿ—บ 7 Rms ๐Ÿ›๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸTable Shower(TS)+Massage 2hr $120*,TS & massage 1hr $90, ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ$40/50/60 for 30/45/60min ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸAttendants: We have 6๏ธโƒฃ today ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒน SOPHIE ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• OLIVIA ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• SUNNY ๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ†• TINA ๐ŸŒน CHERRY ๐ŸŒน LUCY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ NEWSFLASH ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ SOPHIE & ๐Ÿ†• SUNNY & ๐Ÿ†• TINA & ๐ŸŒน CHERRY ๐ŸŒน ๐Ÿ†• OLIVIA โ€˜ s BACK ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ TODAY ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€
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  32. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน ๐ŸŒนJessica and Cici. Guys come over and try the table shower body slide. It's super enjoyable๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ˜˜5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  33. Sparkling Spa:
    SEXY ZOE & MUI CALIENTE STELLA TODAY @ SPARKLING SPA!!! 50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave)โœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS
  34. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, LUCY, ANAYA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  35. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  36. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Cuban girl (Mimi) and New Asian (Apple) in today
  37. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new pretty cute Sally and GFE Ivy with curve body,sexy Coco and cute Ella open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Candy, Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  41. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful sexy
  42. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinede Judy, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Vicky, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  43. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, LUCY, ANAYA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  44. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: LULU, MELODY & SUGAR 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie) Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim & beautiful, 5โ€™3โ€, 105 pounds with 34C Cups & incredible services. MELODY is young, slim and slightly curvy, 5โ€™3โ€ and 105 pounds, hourglass sexy shape, and delicious
  45. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ SELINA: A TALL AND SLENDER ASIAN GIRL, VERY FRIENDLY AND ABLE TO PROVIDE AN RMT LIKE MASSAGE ๐ŸŒธ NANCY: A PETITE CURVY YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL THAT IS VERY FUN AND OPEN MINDED ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  46. GoldenFlower:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป GOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป ๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jessi, Jojo, Sherry & Sonia Jessi is a slim and petite Vietnamese hotty who is garnering repeat visits. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian sweetie.
  47. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธHelen & Jenny. Helen is a sweet and very lovable Asian beauty with just enough curves to tease you, and an attitude to please you. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    SUPER HOT STELLA & SERVICE QUEEN ZOE @ Sparkling Spa๐Ÿ‘ŒMENTION OUR ADS AND RECEIVE A ROOM DISCOUNT $35 FOR 30MIN, $50 FOR 45MINโ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8
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