Best BJ Massage service in Toronto??

krayjee said:

You seem so concern about the rates, the tips and a few bucks difference. You are in the wrong hobby man. This is service industry, if the girl treats me good and serves me well, I will tip her generously more than the going rates.

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Don't let the spa guy tell you to pay more, you are fully correct in keeping the rates down as it will allow more participants.

It will be interesting to see the rates for the next couple weeks in surrounding areas and private, then in the new year....need a good driving force to get things going again for decent prices and drive some volume/economy. When I go out for a massage, i also get gas, coffee, sometimes a meal and sometimes go shopping.........if I stay home, not much cash hitting the economy..........let's get people out again, everyone do their part, but keep the prices down and reasonable...........and all the rich guys go to high end spots and spend !

Back in Toronto said:

If I'm going to spend $100, I'd rather be in her pussy than in her mouth. Thank you again.

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Yes bare back is growing in Popularity
Too risky

MrBnH said:

It will be interesting to see the rates for the next couple weeks in surrounding areas and private, then in the new year....need a good driving force to get things going again for decent prices and drive some volume/economy. When I go out for a massage, i also get gas, coffee, sometimes a meal and sometimes go shopping.........if I stay home, not much cash hitting the economy..........let's get people out again, everyone do their part, but keep the prices down and reasonable...........and all the rich guys go to high end spots and spend !

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Bare back pure is not. Good idea
Try half half

imhungry said:

Chloe and Cherry allow cim finish?and if so total damage? TY and thanks for reminder of Maggie..gotta get back and see her again..been too long!

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I agree
Fun
But no c I m
Resize the respect

Michael777 said:

Yes bare back is growing in Popularity
Too risky

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Cipussy feels way better than Cimouth, I'm thinking for BOTH parties.

MrBnH said:

Don't let the spa guy tell you to pay more, you are fully correct in keeping the rates down as it will allow more participants.

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I agree, as long as guys will pay top dollar for mediocre service, they won't up their game or drop their prices.

When I first starting going to spas because my marriage was over (well before the inevitable divorce), 60 minutes was $40 and not only did I usually receive at least 60, if not 65 minutes, but I'd be offered tea or a cold beverage. The massage was more thorough and sensual and they were happy with $20 tip.

Now I sometimes get 45-50 minutes, often nothing remotely sensual, sometimes they're on the cell booking their next sucker, and if they don't get $30-40 for a two minute jackhammer HJ, they act like you came in their eye. AND the going rate is $50-60.

IF and that's a HUGE if, I eventually find masseuse that can give a reasonably good massage, is THOROUGH (thighs, gluts, feet, hands... and balls), not adverse to spreading my cheeks, can perform a PROPER prostate massage, and focuses more on me than the clock, I'd become a regular and give her great tips.

I KNOW they enjoy doing this for a living about as much as we enjoy having to pay them for what a loving partner should be providing, but many of them can't/won't even ACT the part.

So you guys that think "your" girl loves seeing you, congrats on either having a great actress or my sympathy for being easily deceived.

But if anyone knows such a creature, please respond here, but you can't/won't because she either doesn't exist or if you did, she'd be so busy, you'd need to book her MONTHS in advance.

Back in Toronto said:

If I'm going to spend $100, I'd rather be in her pussy than in her mouth. Thank you again.

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...well, if I was cumming in her pussy, sure... but cfs= cumming in a condom

MrBnH said:

Don't let the spa guy tell you to pay more, you are fully correct in keeping the rates down as it will allow more participants.

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Some bj are with scrub gloves
FYI
Amazon massage Laura

xtc27 said:

...well, if I was cumming in her pussy, sure... but cfs= cumming in a condom

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True, but I've had some DEMAND a "tip" for CRAP service!!! One even demanded a tip in the MIDDLE of a CRAPPY massage and hadn't even gotten past my neck and back!!! Plus she was middle aged and let's just say, not so attractive. I got dressed and walked out instead of giving that greedy whore another dollar. (That's why I'm suspicious the first time I'm at places that make you pay upfront).

And NOTHING is a bigger TURNOFF than when they give a PRICELIST like I'm at a damn car dealer and they're trying to upsell me. It just reminds me what they are and makes me ashamed for what I am.

So for any masseuses out there, if your John is decent and you make him happy, he'll make you happy, but if you come right out and announce you're a whore, he'll likely treat you accordingly.

I ALWAYS tip better when I receive things I didn't ask for, just like the car dealer that "THROWS IN" some extras, is the one I've bought FOUR NEW cars from and have sent him ALL my friends looking to buy.

Back in Toronto said:

True, but I've had some DEMAND a "tip" for CRAP service!!! One even demanded a tip in the MIDDLE of a CRAPPY massage and hadn't even gotten past my neck and back!!! Plus she was middle aged and let's just say, not so attractive.

And NOTHING is a bigger TURNOFF than when they give a PRICELIST like I'm at a damn car dealer and they're trying to upsell me. It just reminds me what they are and makes me ashamed for what I am.

So for any masseuses out there, if your John is decent and you make him happy, he'll make you happy, but if you come right out and announce you're a whore, he'll likely treat you accordingly.

I ALWAYS tip better when I receive things I didn't ask for, just like the car dealer that "THROWS IN" some extras, is the one I've bought FOUR NEW cars from and have sent him ALL my friends looking to buy.

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Look @ it f/ mpa POV...

Lotsa guys take sex & take off w minimal or NO tip @ ALL! ... cut 'em some slack...

Its why it's good to make girl feel super comfortable w u... compliment her on her skills, looks, thank her for every little thing... make her feel gd 2b with u...

...2 get max max mileage possible... treat her really gd, u r better than 90% of other guys...

YMMV is still a thing... I mean, if u look like ex-bf or pervert uncle, yer fucked... evil side YMMV...

So, with reasonable luck... treat her gd & world opens 4u...

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I find that eSpa girls seem to trust guys allot... I think theyre crazy... but u give them gd feeling, they don't quote $$$... kinda competition btwn girls...

So. if u= with reg girl, just put out tip $ right away, no discussion gonna happen...

Would u do that w girl u dunno? Like put out $100 tip & trust she nose its 4 CFS? I don't think so... same 4 her, she's gotta make sure u get that a certain $$$ amount = expected,,,

...there is really no set BBBJCIM $...

CBJ = 80, CFS = 100 ...

BBBJ > CBJ, right? BBBJCIM > BBBJ & HJ finish?

So 4me, BBBJCIM gotta b $100

xtc27 said:

Look @ it f/ mpa POV...

Lotsa guys take sex & take off w minimal or NO tip @ ALL! ... cut 'em some slack...

Its why it's good to make girl feel super comfortable w u... compliment her on her skills, looks, thank her for every little thing... make her feel gd 2b with u...

...2 get max max mileage possible... treat her really gd, u r better than 90% of other guys...

YMMV is still a thing... I mean, if u look like ex-bf or pervert uncle, yer fucked... evil side YMMV...

So, with reasonable luck... treat her gd & world opens 4u...

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I find that eSpa girls seem to trust guys allot... I think theyre crazy... but u give them gd feeling, they don't quote $$$... kinda competition btwn girls...

So. if u= with reg girl, just put out tip $ right away, no discussion gonna happen...

Would u do that w girl u dunno? Like put out $100 tip & trust she nose its 4 CFS? I don't think so... same 4 her, she's gotta make sure u get that a certain $$$ amount = expected,,,

...there is really no set BBBJCIM $...

CBJ = 80, CFS = 100 ...

BBBJ > CBJ, right? BBBJCIM > BBBJ & HJ finish?

So 4me, BBBJCIM gotta b $100

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But a guy can only stiff (no pun intended) a girl ONCE, just like a girl can only screw me over (no pun intended) ONCE.

When I see an $85-100/hr RMT, and she does a particular good job (usually means doing my gluts nicely or not chastising me if I get a boner), I tip her too. If it's not that great, I move on to the next of the 1000 RMTs available.

But that's why I like the $45-50 places. So when the girl does a good job I can give HER more money, instead of her pimp boss. Sure there are some dine and dash scum out there, but I don't see decent restaurants taking the money before the meal either. And when the service is good, I slip her the CASH, never add it to the bill as I'm not sure how much the owner will pocket.

Back in Toronto said:

If I'm going to spend $100, I'd rather be in her pussy than in her mouth. Thank you again.

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Fuck hard

Back in Toronto said:

But a guy can only stiff (no pun intended) a girl ONCE, just like a girl can only screw me over (no pun intended) ONCE.

When I see an $85-100/hr RMT, and she does a particular good job (usually means doing my gluts nicely or not chastising me if I get a boner), I tip her too. If it's not that great, I move on to the next of the 1000 RMTs available.

But that's why I like the $45-50 places. So when the girl does a good job I can give HER more money, instead of her pimp boss. Sure there are some dine and dash scum out there, but I don't see decent restaurants taking the money before the meal either. And when the service is good, I slip her the CASH, never add it to the bill as I'm not sure how much the owner will pocket.

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...think we're on same page allot...

• But RMT ... they are not giving u xtras... miracles aside... that's one insurance pays 4... extras=fired, lose license
  • RMT & $10 tip = plenty... she's getting $90+/hr... she's ok... & u better hide that boner, dude!

• Semi legits, holistics, body rub, etc... msg + xtras, up 2 full sex... yr 1st time w/ girl, negotiate... u take the lead, it feels different... lean on wall & tell her EXACTLY what u want... b4 u get naked so u can walk if u don't like the answer
  • she can tell u what the tips are then or not...
  • if you look like u no what yer doing, they may assume u no how 2 tip
  • Feels awesome
    • Even walking out feels awesome... esp when they chase after u...

Add it 2 the bill? RMT, ok, there's a bill, u tip her cash, its $10 (or $20 if u wanna date her)... funtype spas, there is no bill, everything = cash, no audit trail... yeah, u can pay by credit card, just seems batsh!t crazy 2me...

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If u r gettign xtras f/ RMT, better keep it quiet... u can tip them allot, risk = different + your ins. paying for non-tip part anyway...

xtc27 said:

...think we're on same page allot...

• But RMT ... they are not giving u xtras... miracles aside... that's one insurance pays 4... extras=fired, lose license
  • RMT & $10 tip = plenty... she's getting $90+/hr... she's ok... & u better hide that boner, dude!
• Semi legits, holistics, body rub, etc... msg + xtras, up 2 full sex... yr 1st time w/ girl, negotiate... u take the lead, it feels different... lean on wall & tell her EXACTLY what u want... b4 u get naked so u can walk if u don't like the answer
  • she can tell u what the tips are then or not...
  • if you look like u no what yer doing, they may assume u no how 2 tip
  • Feels awesome
    • Even walking out feels awesome... esp when they chase after u...

Add it 2 the bill? RMT, ok, there's a bill, u tip her cash, its $10 (or $20 if u wanna date her)... funtype spas, there is no bill, everything = cash, no audit trail... yeah, u can pay by credit card, just seems batsh!t crazy 2me...

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If u r gettign xtras f/ RMT, better keep it quiet... u can tip them allot, risk = different + your ins. paying for non-tip part anyway...

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No, I was saying even though AT RESTAURANTS, some losers dine and dash, the DECENT ones still bring the check AFTER the service. So for a spa to charge before the service because of a few cheap losers, says more about their clientele.

Since I don't go to spas for sex, I never ask for the menu. I'm in this site so I can find out who's who for prostate massage, ass play, good technique, thorough, pretty... PRECISELY so I don't waste time walking out after I just got there and KNOW the cost ahead of time (why I think people who post "reviews" WITHOUT what they paid is useless or ADVERTISING/SHILLING. But when the woman PRESENTS me with a price list of what she feels she's worth, even if she told me $5 for CFS (they couldn't pay ME enough to go BB), I would decline.

I met a BEAUTIFUL woman online and we met in a convenient for both of us third country. I was intending to marry her, until she told me she expected a monthly "ALLOWANCE". She owned TWO businesses and I was going to provide MY HOUSE and a live in maid. I called off the wedding because then the ONLY thing she'd be doing for me was spreading her legs and I'd be PAYING for it!

If the masseuse offered and I accepted, I'd give her a great tip, but when they give a PRICELIST, I can't get it up. To each their own I guess.

Back in Toronto said:

No, I was saying even though AT RESTAURANTS, some losers dine and dash, the DECENT ones still bring the check AFTER the service. So for a spa to charge before the service because of a few cheap losers, says more about their clientele.

Since I don't go to spas for sex, I never ask for the menu. I'm in this site so I can find out who's who for prostate massage, ass play, good technique, thorough, pretty... PRECISELY so I don't waste time walking out after I just got there. But when the woman PRESENTS me with a price list of what she feels she's worth, even if she told me $5 for CFS (they couldn't pay ME enough to go BB), I would decline.

I met a BEAUTIFUL woman online and we met in a convenient for both of us third country. I was intending to marry her, until she told me she expected a monthly "ALLOWANCE". She owned TWO businesses and I was going to provide MY HOUSE and a live in maid. I called off the wedding because then the ONLY thing she'd be doing for me was spreading her legs and I'd be PAYING for it!

If the masseuse offered and I accepted, I'd give her a great tip, but when they give a PRICELIST, I can't get it up. To each their own I guess.

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...yeah, u need msg girl that does PM... stay away from the rest.

It's a big turn off 4 me if I feel like its a whorehouse... its funny how a msg deprograms my brain & I feel like its gf again... bc if I feel like IM in a brothel, yucky feeling, I skedadle....

xtc27 said:

...yeah, u need msg girl that does PM... stay away from the rest.

It's a big turn off 4 me if I feel like its a whorehouse... its funny how a msg deprograms my brain & I feel like its gf again... bc if I feel like IM in a brothel, yucky feeling, I skedadle....

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I had one pretty, Caucasian masseuse get naked and give me a pussy slide. I didn't ask for it and she didn't give me a heads up, just got naked while I was face down and then mounted me when I turned over. It wasn't pleasant as her stubble felt like a cheese grater on my cock, so I couldn't cum. She finished with a HJ and I tipped her $50. That was years ago even the hour was $40. If she had given me a price, even say $20, I would have declined. Usually I just say, "sorry, I didn't bring enough cash, maybe next time" and then never go back to that spa.

I've got a few solid leads on masseuses with alleged PROPER prostate massage technique. When I find her, I'll post a review and my quest will finally be over, until she, "goes back to china". And I'll start looking again.

Well I am happy if all goes well and the price of 40rm+60/80 or 60rm+60/80 and then I can tip over/above based on service, I am happy.
It is like going to the Keg, if the meal/service is good, I pay fair price and then tip accordingly, but if meal/service is bad, I just pay the fair price and use no tip to show my unhappiness......same thing at AMP, fair rate and tip based on service. But I have seen that I get 40+80 and tip and then next time up front get told from the same MPA that it is $140 up front...........good bye

MrBnH said:

Well I am happy if all goes well and the price of 40rm+60/80 or 60rm+60/80 and then I can tip over/above based on service, I am happy.
It is like going to the Keg, if the meal/service is good, I pay fair price and then tip accordingly, but if meal/service is bad, I just pay the fair price and use no tip to show my unhappiness......same thing at AMP, fair rate and tip based on service. But I have seen that I get 40+80 and tip and then next time up front get told from the same MPA that it is $140 up front...........good bye

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EXACTLY, it's a slap in the face when they pretty much say, "to be with you for 30-60 minutes, I'll need more than $120. I'd reply, "I'll pay the $140, but this time I want a PRETTY masseuse'!

MrBnH said:

Well I am happy if all goes well and the price of 40rm+60/80 or 60rm+60/80 and then I can tip over/above based on service, I am happy.
It is like going to the Keg, if the meal/service is good, I pay fair price and then tip accordingly, but if meal/service is bad, I just pay the fair price and use no tip to show my unhappiness......same thing at AMP, fair rate and tip based on service. But I have seen that I get 40+80 and tip and then next time up front get told from the same MPA that it is $140 up front...........good bye

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...4 food.... did that 4 years... I tip, then scold. Its still how they make a livng... no tip means u= cheapskate ... if u tip, they gotta listen.

...same 4 sex... u ask 4 it, its already paid 4... if no gd, tell them... don’t rip them off...

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This one GILF sent herself in instead of younger girl I had anticipated... & I’m thinkng, geez, prolly her mouth game= gr8... I went with it..

Fucking horrible... huge dark tats on her tits, like she had tumours, not attractive... thats when I needed 2run, she hadnt done anything yet... could not cum no matter what she did... I need visual stimulation, not just oral... altho was hard in her mouth, but not close 2 cumming... & I had reason 2b upset, not girl I expected... but I still tipped. B&S, sure, but I coulda run away... her mouth musta been tired...

All kindsa things go wrong, just speak up... pussy slide w stubble? Tell her 2 stop...