Chat Seduction Spa - Pre/Post COVID

Essem · Oct 20, 2020

I'm going to partake in some controversial calling out here, so try and resist the urge to hate. We all know that due to COVID many mpas have scaled back on their services at the spa which is no question their right and by no means am I bashing their personal decisions, but I think those who have not scaled back and continue to provide above average sensual sessions need to be given some more praise.

Post COVID girls like Emily, Lorena, Aaliyah, Nikki, Kali (the odd shift she's showed up), Lily, Laura, Bella, Holly, Kasey, Bella and yes ill say it - Shina and Lexi, have all been liberal and open minded in their sessions - that deserves some praise.

Mpas like Maria, Miaa. Nisha and Skarlett have all appeared to scale back to a point they may not in my opinion be worth seeing anymore. I would even suggest girls like Harley, Melina, Rose, Sierra, Isla and Milani seem off their game lately (not to suggest the session quality has dropped dramatically, but to simply point out you may not recieve what you are accustomed to receiving from them).

Lastly, a recent observation - The Keele location appears to be loosing its mojo! Ive tried avoiding driving out to the airport, but its quickly becoming my go-to spot! My buddy used an interesting analogy - its like the new vs old Casino in Niagara, the main attractions/big boys tables are at the newer Fallsview, while the cheaper value plays and specials continue to operate at the older Casino Niagara.

Share your thoughts/comments - I'm not hating on those mpas who choose to be more careful, but I think we all have the right to discuss who offers what and compare it to what we are looking for before spending that $200+ tab each visit.

Knight777 · Oct 20, 2020

Appreciate your input and I absolutely agree. The way I see it, the risk is the same regardless of them giving you a bbj or cbj. The extra precautions is either because of unawareness or because they want to use this as an excuse.

Stoo · Oct 20, 2020

I posted this elsewhere today, but in my reasonably informed opinion, the services offered are not going to have any effect on the spread of this virus. It's like a cold, a bad one. If you're close to the other person and touching them especially, you're going to be exposed. The difference though, is that there is increasing evidence that SARS-COV 2 is easily spread through aerosolizatiion. Basically it means that this virus can attach to the tiniest of water droplets and literally "hang" in the air. It might be reasonable to think of it like this. A new client enters the room smoking a cigarette. He puts in down, showers, dries himself, then resumes smoking while he sits on the end of the table. Five minutes later, in walks the girl. My now, the air is filled with smoke. She sits in the chair, and since she wants to be "safe", she pulls out a dildo, and fucks herself stupid while the client jerks off. She leaves. He showers and leaves.

Tell me, is she going to smell like smoke? Did she inhale any?

In my opinion, opening spas was a bad decision, but as a girl on Twitter pointed out, the health department may figure that (a) it's only a massage and a handy or (b) they figure we as clients and providers have a higher tolerance for risk than the average Joe. We'll educate ourselves and make our decision. We enter these places knowing that we could easily catch herpes, gonorrhea, chlamydia and a dozen other things including HIV. We all know that most clients NEVER get tested. I know (and you should too) that some girls rarely get tested, some never do, and some get tested regularly. But even with those girls, the test is somewhat meaningless, because it isn't done in "real time". Her first client after a test could give her something and it may well be another month or much more before she's tested and treated.

So my dudes, make no mistake. There is a risk to this "sport". If one of the girls contracts this disease, it'll go trough the place like wildfire. Same if a client shows up with it.

We're stupid going in these days.

I need to go look to see who's on Friday now. Gotta book an appointment.

Hornet · Oct 20, 2020

Seduction isn’t my spa but generally there are two logical service changes for mpa’s during these times:

1) LFK and DFK are way down. Makes sense given the transmission of Covid and getting that close and breathing on each other
2) mileage could be up. I income dropped off for 3 months and volumes are down, then mpa’s could be trying to eek out more $ per session by offering more mileage.

Whether mpa’s are scaling back or ramping up services is likely their safety vs money trade-off dilemma given their personal situations at home.

mello69 · Oct 20, 2020

cbj is a joke

Davelovezcurves · Oct 20, 2020

Stoo said:
I posted this elsewhere today, but in my reasonably informed opinion, the services offered are not going to have any effect on the spread of this virus. It's like a cold, a bad one. If you're close to the other person and touching them especially, you're going to be exposed. The difference though, is that there is increasing evidence that SARS-COV 2 is easily spread through aerosolizatiion. Basically it means that this virus can attach to the tiniest of water droplets and literally "hang" in the air. It might be reasonable to think of it like this. A new client enters the room smoking a cigarette. He puts in down, showers, dries himself, then resumes smoking while he sits on the end of the table. Five minutes later, in walks the girl. My now, the air is filled with smoke. She sits in the chair, and since she wants to be "safe", she pulls out a dildo, and fucks herself stupid while the client jerks off. She leaves. He showers and leaves.

Tell me, is she going to smell like smoke? Did she inhale any?

In my opinion, opening spas was a bad decision, but as a girl on Twitter pointed out, the health department may figure that (a) it's only a massage and a handy or (b) they figure we as clients and providers have a higher tolerance for risk than the average Joe. We'll educate ourselves and make our decision. We enter these places knowing that we could easily catch herpes, gonorrhea, chlamydia and a dozen other things including HIV. We all know that most clients NEVER get tested. I know (and you should too) that some girls rarely get tested, some never do, and some get tested regularly. But even with those girls, the test is somewhat meaningless, because it isn't done in "real time". Her first client after a test could give her something and it may well be another month or much more before she's tested and treated.

So my dudes, make no mistake. There is a risk to this "sport". If one of the girls contracts this disease, it'll go trough the place like wildfire. Same if a client shows up with it.

We're stupid going in these days.

I need to go look to see who's on Friday now. Gotta book an appointment.

I agree with most of what you wrote and great analogy with the smoke. Difference with covid it's easily spread. Along with I can pass it on too others if I get it. Where are herpes, ghono, chlamydia etc I won't pass them to grandma but give grandma a hug while having covid is a potential death sentence. All those std's I have to have sex or oral sex to pass them on. Not just by being close to someone like with covid. I believe it's an aerosol but info changes everyday with this stupid virus. Who knows what is true right now.

Many girls haven't returned to spa life for this reason they live or around family members who are older or have pre existing health problems. I have gone to spa since summer. I have scaled back visits massively compared to pre covid.

Catman · Oct 20, 2020

Essem said:
I'm going to partake in some controversial calling out here, so try and resist the urge to hate. We all know that due to COVID many mpas have scaled back on their services at the spa which is no question their right and by no means am I bashing their personal decisions, but I think those who have not scaled back and continue to provide above average sensual sessions need to be given some more praise.

Post COVID girls like Emily, Lorena, Aaliyah, Nikki, Kali (the odd shift she's showed up), Lily, Laura, Bella, Holly, Kasey, Bella and yes ill say it - Shina and Lexi, have all been liberal and open minded in their sessions - that deserves some praise.

Mpas like Maria, Miaa. Nisha and Skarlett have all appeared to scale back to a point they may not in my opinion be worth seeing anymore. I would even suggest girls like Harley, Melina, Rose, Sierra, Isla and Milani seem off their game lately (not to suggest the session quality has dropped dramatically, but to simply point out you may not recieve what you are accustomed to receiving from them).

Lastly, a recent observation - The Keele location appears to be loosing its mojo! Ive tried avoiding driving out to the airport, but its quickly becoming my go-to spot! My buddy used an interesting analogy - its like the new vs old Casino in Niagara, the main attractions/big boys tables are at the newer Fallsview, while the cheaper value plays and specials continue to operate at the older Casino Niagara.

Share your thoughts/comments - I'm not hating on those mpas who choose to be more careful, but I think we all have the right to discuss who offers what and compare it to what we are looking for before spending that $200+ tab each visit.

Sucking and fucking all day long is soul destroying work. Perhaps these girls that arent performing to their previous standards are burning out. They need a vacation

Stoo · Oct 20, 2020

Davelovezcurves said:
I believe it's an aerosol but info changes everyday with this stupid virus. Who knows what is true right now.

The nature of scientific discovery is that it evolves. In terms of "who knows what is true" is that "we" do know how it's spread. This isn't to say we won't learn more, but for now, we know it's spread by touch, by direct exposure to mucus membrane (kissing, unprotected sex), through contact with contaminated surfaces (this seems to be less a threat than originally thought) and through the air on water vapour. They also know that the virus can move and be found in weird places... "Commode plumes" is my favorite... an infected person poops in the toilet, then flushes. The resultant plume of invisible water vapour carries the virus up and into the air. The good news is that it's likely in such low concentrations that it likely won't be a concern unless you're standing right there. Hell, there is even some evidence that the virus can be carried around by domestic animals, especially cats. This is insidious shit...

Like you, I've cut way back... party due to the virus, and partly for economics as my income has taken a hit during this shit.

mar91 · Oct 20, 2020

If you are only comparing the girls working there before and now this could be accurate. However, with all the new ladies working, especially the ones coming from closed strip clubs, I think this is having an overall effect on the girls who are working. I have noticed that the ones working now who worked before the pandemic started seem to be the ones who are busier. Not just at Seductions but at other spas as well. That being said, girls do talk, and if the new ones are getting the same money for doing less, I'm sure some of the ones who were originally there will start to drop there services to see if they can as well. This may even work for some of them for a while, but word will get around and they will become less busy over time. Unfortunately, many will spend money and leave unsatisfied until all of this gets settled.

c1000 · Oct 20, 2020

Essem said:
Post COVID girls like Emily, Lorena, Aaliyah, Nikki, Kali (the odd shift she's showed up), Lily, Laura, Bella, Holly, Kasey, Bella and yes ill say it - Shina and Lexi, have all been liberal and open minded in their sessions - that deserves some praise.

Mpas like Maria, Miaa. Nisha and Skarlett have all appeared to scale back to a point they may not in my opinion be worth seeing anymore. I would even suggest girls like Harley, Melina, Rose, Sierra, Isla and Milani seem off their game lately (not to suggest the session quality has dropped dramatically, but to simply point out you may not recieve what you are accustomed to receiving from them).

Shit, you've pretty much already been with half the active roster. What more information do you need to harvest?

Catman · Oct 21, 2020

mar91 said:
If you are only comparing the girls working there before and now this could be accurate. However, with all the new ladies working, especially the ones coming from closed strip clubs, I think this is having an overall effect on the girls who are working. I have noticed that the ones working now who worked before the pandemic started seem to be the ones who are busier. Not just at Seductions but at other spas as well. That being said, girls do talk, and if the new ones are getting the same money for doing less, I'm sure some of the ones who were originally there will start to drop there services to see if they can as well. This may even work for some of them for a while, but word will get around and they will become less busy over time. Unfortunately, many will spend money and leave unsatisfied until all of this gets settled.

Ive also noticed however that the new seduction girls rates have been dropping as well. Seems like my message has been getting through. Just remember everyone, the spa business is all about money. We the customers have the money therefore we hold the power. Stop spending your $ at Seduction and watch how fast these bitches rates drop

Essem · Oct 21, 2020

Catman said:
Ive also noticed however that the new seduction girls rates have been dropping as well. Seems like my message has been getting through. Just remember everyone, the spa business is all about money. We the customers have the money therefore we hold the power. Stop spending your $ at Seduction and watch how fast these bitches rates drop

When I think back at all the girls who charged $80+ for a bj or $120+ for fs, they've ALL had subpar service when compared to the average girls who charge the standard $50-60 and $100 rate - if a girl charges more than the going rate she's usually very transactional and full of herself (or not really into extras to begin with) - so guys typically bite the bullet and never repeat.

What these girls don't realize is there's a good portion of us who repeat regularily and they loose out long term because we take out business elsewhere. They scam the occasional visitor and feel good about themselves, but jokes on them. Going into extras unprompted and charging reasonable rates is the secret to being booked up in advance- wish some would just realize this very simple formula lol

Kawailuvr · Oct 21, 2020

I have to agree with the point of we the customers have the stroke here and especially now during the covid times ., I have said it before that guys are just plain stupid to be paying these higher rates and many guys have jumped on me with things like “if you don’t have the money money or can’t afford her rates “ lol
For me it’s not about can you afford it the thing is why pay that much ? So if you take 45mins it’s generally $180 right ,, so the girl is already getting $120 so if you tip $50 she is picking up $170 for 45mins and it is the rare attendant that will edge you the entire session am I right ? ) those are the girls that are always prebooked ! So only 5 customers in a day that’s $850 cash let’s round up for shits and giggles call it a grand ? No education
No studies needed
No work history needed nothing accept look good suck and fuck well and if you only do 3 shifts a week that whore is pulling in $3000 weekly
So where is the problem for these ladies ? as far as I’m concerned these women across the board should have a property a nice ride and some fancy bags and clothes and shit and stacks of cash tucked away
I have zero sympathy for them when I read on twitter how hard they are being it ffs
Shut the fuck up and suck cock that is what you signed up for

imthedude · Oct 21, 2020

Some real Elliot Rodgers energy there, chief.

Cool-Story-Bro · Oct 21, 2020

Kawailuvr said:
I have to agree with the point of we the customers have the stroke here and especially now during the covid times ., I have said it before that guys are just plain stupid to be paying these higher rates and many guys have jumped on me with things like “if you don’t have the money money or can’t afford her rates “ lol
For me it’s not about can you afford it the thing is why pay that much ? So if you take 45mins it’s generally $180 right ,, so the girl is already getting $120 so if you tip $50 she is picking up $170 for 45mins and it is the rare attendant that will edge you the entire session am I right ? ) those are the girls that are always prebooked ! So only 5 customers in a day that’s $850 cash let’s round up for shits and giggles call it a grand ? No education
No studies needed
No work history needed nothing accept look good suck and fuck well and if you only do 3 shifts a week that whore is pulling in $3000 weekly
So where is the problem for these ladies ? as far as I’m concerned these women across the board should have a property a nice ride and some fancy bags and clothes and shit and stacks of cash tucked away
I have zero sympathy for them when I read on twitter how hard they are being it ffs
Shut the fuck up and suck cock that is what you signed up for

You are right. But being self-employed they have to pay huge tax year end. We get tax refund (deducted monthly) they don't have that, if this is what they earn then i think they would be paying $30k in taxes.
Good for economy

Catman · Oct 21, 2020

Essem said:
When I think back at all the girls who charged $80+ for a bj or $120+ for fs, they've ALL had subpar service when compared to the average girls who charge the standard $50-60 and $100 rate - if a girl charges more than the going rate she's usually very transactional and full of herself (or not really into extras to begin with) - so guys typically bite the bullet and never repeat.

What these girls don't realize is there's a good portion of us who repeat regularily and they loose out long term because we take out business elsewhere. They scam the occasional visitor and feel good about themselves, but jokes on them. Going into extras unprompted and charging reasonable rates is the secret to being booked up in advance- wish some would just realize this very simple formula lol

Exactly.

Kawailuvr said:
I have to agree with the point of we the customers have the stroke here and especially now during the covid times ., I have said it before that guys are just plain stupid to be paying these higher rates and many guys have jumped on me with things like “if you don’t have the money money or can’t afford her rates “ lol
For me it’s not about can you afford it the thing is why pay that much ? So if you take 45mins it’s generally $180 right ,, so the girl is already getting $120 so if you tip $50 she is picking up $170 for 45mins and it is the rare attendant that will edge you the entire session am I right ? ) those are the girls that are always prebooked ! So only 5 customers in a day that’s $850 cash let’s round up for shits and giggles call it a grand ? No education
No studies needed
No work history needed nothing accept look good suck and fuck well and if you only do 3 shifts a week that whore is pulling in $3000 weekly
So where is the problem for these ladies ? as far as I’m concerned these women across the board should have a property a nice ride and some fancy bags and clothes and shit and stacks of cash tucked away
I have zero sympathy for them when I read on twitter how hard they are being it ffs
Shut the fuck up and suck cock that is what you signed up for

Exactly. And the one's jumping on you for being cheap have an agenda. These people are comprised of Seduction ownership group, Seduction employees and their pimps. These are the same shit heads who put up fake reviews that lie and encourage ppl to pay above standard rates so they all make more money. Put these Seduction shills on ignore. Dont give them a voice.

Catman · Oct 21, 2020

Rudy1990 said:
You are right. But being self-employed they have to pay huge tax year end. We get tax refund (deducted monthly) they don't have that, if this is what they earn then i think they would be paying $30k in taxes.
Good for economy

Lol. These bitches only pay tax on what they declare. Same goes for Seduction spa

Cool-Story-Bro · Oct 21, 2020

Catman said:
Lol. These bitches only pay tax on what they declare. Same goes for Seduction spa

Yeah maybe a slight margin to declare. It's not possible to declare only $20k/yearly to CRA when they actually make $120k/yearly.
CRA is not dumb, they might know more than us how much they make.

spincity · Oct 21, 2020

I got news for ya, 90% of these MPA's do not pay any taxes, this is another reason they do this work. There is no paperwork, its a total cash business. The down side is they have trouble showing paystubs or any proof of income when they need an apt or a car loan. So no pension as well. The smart ones have a real part time or full time job where they do pay taxes or a legitimate side business where they claim some income.

Cool-Story-Bro · Oct 21, 2020

spincity said:
I got news for ya, 90% of these MPA's do not pay any taxes, this is another reason they do this work. There is no paperwork, its a total cash business. The down side is they have trouble showing paystubs or any proof of income when they need an apt or a car loan. So no pension as well. The smart ones have a real part time or full time job where they do pay taxes or a legitimate side business where they claim some income.

But how is that possible ? So they have an offshore account in Panama
I don't think they MPA needs a loan, they can just pay the full amount.
Loan/Credit score is for people like you & me.

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