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Time for a shower !!!

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So any thoughts about how much time a MPA should deduct from your paid time in order to use the excuse that the room needs to be cleaned and for your shower???

Recenlty paid for a 30min session at Flirt VP
She walks in 5 min late which is fine by me but after about 15 min she starts jackhammering me and won't slow down even when asked to.
Says we are out of time because she needs 10min for shower and room cleanup !!!

So my 30 min wound up as 15 min before she killed the mood.
finished and left
wont repeat
 
Total b.s.. if you paid for 30mins then you should get 30 mins. The room should be cleaned before you enter, that's why I stay away from assembly line spa's. Get you in and out fast as possible.
 
Although most are not so blatant about it, this is still standard operating procedure for a lot of girls out there.

Regardless showers are not supposed to be included in the paid time at Flirt or other higher end spas. So you could complain and they might do something for people who complain. But for the most part even the management at these places tacitly encourage the practice since it escalates the turnover and thus their bottom line.
 
I then got cheated most of the time in Flirt. Almost every time, the finishing shower was included in the paid time!!! I have thin skin, don't like to talk to girls on this directly. May be I can tell the girl next time that I read on the internet shower time is not to be taken and see what happen.
 
I then got cheated most of the time in Flirt. Almost every time, the finishing shower was included in the paid time!!! I have thin skin, don't like to talk to girls on this directly. May be I can tell the girl next time that I read on the internet shower time is not to be taken and see what happen.[/QUOTE

This has been discussed at least a zillion times here and on terb.

Best of my knowledge and experience at both Premier and Flirt is that your session starts after your initial shower, although once in a while the mpa will enter the room just as you're finishing it.

Your finishing shower is supposed to start 5 minutes or so before the session time is up, whether or not it is an sf2.

So to sum it up, the first shower doesn't count as part of your session, while the ending shower does.

That said, unless the mpa is planning to join you in the shower for more playtime, she should not ask you to take that shower more than 5 minutes or so before the end of the allotted time.

But guys, if you want a shower that's gonna go on and on, best to mention that up front.
 
This has been discussed at least a zillion times here and on terb.

Best of my knowledge and experience at both Premier and Flirt is that your session starts after your initial shower, although once in a while the mpa will enter the room just as you're finishing it.

Your finishing shower is supposed to start 5 minutes or so before the session time is up, whether or not it is an sf2.

So to sum it up, the first shower doesn't count as part of your session, while the ending shower does.

That said, unless the mpa is planning to join you in the shower for more playtime, she should not ask you to take that shower more than 5 minutes or so before the end of the allotted time.

But guys, if you want a shower that's gonna go on and on, best to mention that up front.

It works to the spa's and the girl's advantage for everyone to be in total confusion on this point, but in actuality neither the starting or finishing showers are supposed to be part of the paid time at any of the high end spas. With a few caveats (like you can't shower forever!) that's the official management policy at Flirt, Premier, Muse, Allure, etc.

Unofficially however most girls include the finishing showers anyways to shave off paid time since no one knows any better, and even if they do no one wants to argue with a naked woman. They count on the fact that no one is going to make a fuss about 5, 10, even 15 minutes, but all that time really starts to add up when you're talking about the full spectrum of spas, girls, clients and sessions combined.

If you do start hinting one way or another your attendant should provide the full time most likely you will just piss her off, which really doesn't help make for a great session, so you really can't win, except to try to find girls who don't systematically shorten your session time in this way.
 
Most girls have asked me to end the session 5 min prior to the 30 min.
This was the first time at FLIRT VP that a girl walks in 5 min late and tries to end the session 10 min early on a 30 min session
It just ticked me off...
really a stupid thing for any MPA to do....won't be seeing her again ever and not a great way for her to be building a return clientele
 
The way it's supposed to work at Flirt and elsewhere is that the clock starts running when she first walks in the room. In most cases you will have already finished your initial shower by then. Then you are supposed to get your full 30 minutes, or whatever you paid for, as time with her and then after that you take your finishing shower, which is not supposed to be included at all in your paid time.

But what's the incentive for girls to follow this protocol when most guys don't know that's how it's supposed to work, and most likely won't complain even if they do know?
 
It works to the spa's and the girl's advantage for everyone to be in total confusion on this point, but in actuality neither the starting or finishing showers are supposed to be part of the paid time at any of the high end spas. With a few caveats (like you can't shower forever!) that's the official management policy at Flirt, Premier, Muse, Allure, etc.

Unofficially however most girls include the finishing showers anyways to shave off paid time since no one knows any better, and even if they do no one wants to argue with a naked woman. They count on the fact that no one is going to make a fuss about 5, 10, even 15 minutes, but all that time really starts to add up when you're talking about the full spectrum of spas, girls, clients and sessions combined.

If you do start hinting one way or another your attendant should provide the full time most likely you will just piss her off, which really doesn't help make for a great session, so you really can't win, except to try to find girls who don't systematically shorten your session time in this way.

I agree. Money talk in servicing business including Flirt. I have been tipping the girls even though knowing not necessary and results are usually marvellous for return visits.
 
When you walk in to reception and pay, ask her what the .shower policy is and have her remind the girl
 
30 minute "massage" all the other stuff is outside of the 30 -- - that said I usually only get about 25 minutes or even a little less but I pick my battles. I find the ones I repeat with will give 30 minutes and sometime plus a few. With the regulars if I know she has a customer waiting I will also allow a shorter time cause I know she will treat me right next time. (Give and Take) If I have finished and there is still time I ask for additional head massage - it is very relaxing after
 
30 minute "massage" all the other stuff is outside of the 30 -- - that said I usually only get about 25 minutes or even a little less but I pick my battles. I find the ones I repeat with will give 30 minutes and sometime plus a few. With the regulars if I know she has a customer waiting I will also allow a shorter time cause I know she will treat me right next time. (Give and Take) If I have finished and there is still time I ask for additional head massage - it is very relaxing after
I been to a spa in Etobicoke I go with the same girl cause if her good massage and pretty face and the service she provides had a couple of times clients walk in want a fast massage and a quick release asked me if it ok to serve him fast then back to me and add the time that was spend with the guy as there time that it was kinda busy and her regular only see her she would day next yime when you come I'll owe you whatever time
P.s only 2 girls work at the spa but owner have other one acroos the same plaxa
I would of ask the manager what is this paid for whatever time but I was ask to leave after the release
 
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    SEXY ZOE & MUI CALIENTE STELLA TODAY @ SPARKLING SPA!!! 50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave)โœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS
  33. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, LUCY, ANAYA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  34. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ SARIKA, CAMILLA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  35. Moon&beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Cuban girl (Mimi) and New Asian (Apple) in today
  36. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new pretty cute Sally and GFE Ivy with curve body,sexy Coco and cute Ella open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available,350 Wilson Ave North York
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Candy, Young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ(437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  40. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 818-8896โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful sexy
  41. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Slim Petite Chinede Judy, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Vicky, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  42. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, LUCY, ANAYA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  43. Dreaminn:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญDREAM INN WELLNESS SPA๐Ÿ’ญ: LULU, MELODY & SUGAR 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie) Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ 647-829-2983 โ˜Ž๏ธ LULU is a popular & well known Chinese attendant from another spa, very slim & beautiful, 5โ€™3โ€, 105 pounds with 34C Cups & incredible services. MELODY is young, slim and slightly curvy, 5โ€™3โ€ and 105 pounds, hourglass sexy shape, and delicious
  44. Peony Garden Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ3 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY ๐ŸŒธ SELINA: A TALL AND SLENDER ASIAN GIRL, VERY FRIENDLY AND ABLE TO PROVIDE AN RMT LIKE MASSAGE ๐ŸŒธ NANCY: A PETITE CURVY YOUNG VIETNAMESE GIRL THAT IS VERY FUN AND OPEN MINDED ๐ŸŒธ ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE ๐ŸŒธ PEONY GARDEN SPA ๐ŸŒธ 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 ๐ŸŒธ (416) 335-6093 ๐ŸŒธ
  45. GoldenFlower:
    THURSDAY at ๐Ÿ’›โญ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒป GOLDEN FLOWER SPA๐ŸŒป ๐ŸŒŸโญ๐Ÿ’›, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jessi, Jojo, Sherry & Sonia Jessi is a slim and petite Vietnamese hotty who is garnering repeat visits. Jojo is a beautiful young fair skinned Hong Kong girl who can melt all your cares away. Sherry is an attractive slim Asian sweetie.
  46. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธHelen & Jenny. Helen is a sweet and very lovable Asian beauty with just enough curves to tease you, and an attitude to please you. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sofia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    SUPER HOT STELLA & SERVICE QUEEN ZOE @ Sparkling Spa๐Ÿ‘ŒMENTION OUR ADS AND RECEIVE A ROOM DISCOUNT $35 FOR 30MIN, $50 FOR 45MINโ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone 50 LOCKRIDGE AVE UNIT#8
  50. bumika.vashi:
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