Where has everyone gone?

bigbill · Oct 12, 2017

Looking on CL and Kijiji, there's not a lot of new things going on anyway.

TBone · Oct 14, 2017

I don't post much anymore since there are hundreds of lurkers and RMT's who read these forums. And unfortunately a few guys who don't understand what discretion is when using intel provided here.

If anyone gets a private forum going I'd be happy to post more info there.

Old Fart · Oct 14, 2017

TBone said:
I don't post much anymore since there are hundreds of lurkers and RMT's who read these forums. And unfortunately a few guys who don't understand what discretion is when using intel provided here.

If anyone gets a private forum going I'd be happy to post more info there.

Yes. It is mind boggling how stupid people can be. You have to wonder how they get through a whole day without hurting themselves. If I post that Lady 'SoAndSo' did a topless for me, it is not so someone can go to her and say, "You did a topless for my friend yesterday so I want that too.'
It is so that one knows it is possible with time and respect as opposed to another lady will will not do it even if Hell froze over. But, as you said TBone, some guys don't understand, (or maybe they just don't care who they hurt as long as THEIR WANTS are met).

xy1000 · Oct 14, 2017

Old Fart said:
Yes. It is mind boggling how stupid people can be. You have to wonder how they get through a whole day without hurting themselves. If I post that Lady 'SoAndSo' did a topless for me, it is not so someone can go to her and say, "You did a topless for my friend yesterday so I want that too.'
It is so that one knows it is possible with time and respect as opposed to another lady will will not do it even if Hell froze over. But, as you said TBone, some guys don't understand, (or maybe they just don't care who they hurt as long as THEIR WANTS are met).

When you change the way how you see things, things will change.

xy1000 · Oct 14, 2017

TBone said:
I don't post much anymore since there are hundreds of lurkers and RMT's who read these forums. And unfortunately a few guys who don't understand what discretion is when using intel provided here.

If anyone gets a private forum going I'd be happy to post more info there.

TBone, you have a double standard, do you want me to show it?

Old Fart · Oct 14, 2017

Hey TBone. Got you a present !!! Might wanna try it. Getting pretty thick in here LOL.

Spexx · Oct 14, 2017

I find it funny how many here have this inflated sense of mojo, assuming that these ladies offer extras for any other reason than the money.
Yes there is the need to build a bit of trust but seriously, these ladies don't offer extras because they feel a kinship or because you are better at sweet talking them. There do it for the money.

With that said comes the assumption that if you are going to rub out a stranger, and don't kid yourself even if you've seen them 3-5 times you are still a stranger, they have to assume word will get out. If they don't want the attention, then don't offer the extras.
This overtly conservitive mentality assuming what many of us are looking for is taboo, inappropriate, or meant to be kept behind closed doors is horseshit!
Time to wake up to the era, sexuality is no longer a taboo, it just needs to be safe. I for one, and hope others will voice their approval, believe this hobby has been riddled with ancient moralities and fears that don't apply anymore. The providers play us all trying to instil intimacy that doesn't exist just so we return. Yes, some build better connections with providers but to assume you have an intimate relationship with a masseuse where you pay $120-$200 a session is laughable.
We need to focus and drive this forum to what it is, a sharing of experiences and opinion without fear of reprisal.
Believe me, this is business, treat it as such. Respect the provider but be aware you are paying enough, your discretion should cost much less.

Old Fart · Oct 14, 2017

Spexx said:
sexuality is no longer a taboo,

I don't recall anyone on here saying it was. But some ladies families who live in the city might think it is IF THEY DO IT AT WORK with, to use your own words, STRANGERS.
THEREFORE...Discretion IS important to strangers, as evidenced by your use of the name Spexx, instead of your real name.

Also. are you saying that every lady that has offered you extras did it the very first time she saw you because you flashed your money at her?
I'm guessing some might have but others waited. Why? Not because they did not need the extra money that day. They waited to gain some trust so you would hopefully not be the one who will blab (cuz you are right, some/many will) his face off about the favour he got. Yes it cost but it was still a favour not open to ALL.

Jelloguy · Oct 14, 2017

For answer please see thread about Nana.

Spexx · Oct 14, 2017

Old Fart said:
I don't recall anyone on here saying it was. But some ladies families who live in the city might think it is IF THEY DO IT AT WORK with, to use your own words, STRANGERS.
THEREFORE...Discretion IS important to strangers, as evidenced by your use of the name Spexx, instead of your real name.

Also. are you saying that every lady that has offered you extras did it the very first time she saw you because you flashed your money at her?

Yes, we all have families and we require discretion. The ladies don't use their real names either and that is partially for discretion but also so when they change spa's it allows them to reinvent themselves and the appeal.
Point is the assumption that what we seek and what is provided is immoral is where I find the issue. According to market research there are over 20,000 registered massage therapists in Canada 81% of them female. Combine this with the independents and non registered providers I'd say there is 1 masseuse for every 100 people in Canada.
This profession is popular not because there are that many Canadians with sore backs, it's because we Canadian men are in a constant search for female touch and temporary intimacy, even if it is false intimacy.
I am not saying we need to boast about sessions when the masseuse clearly doesn't want the attention, but once again why would they offer such experiences if it could risk their job or personal relationships? I wouldn't take those risks for an extra $40. But once again, competition is high and if you want to stand out you need to offer more than the next lady.
I am new at this but not once have I ever engaged the question or flashed money. Each time it was offered as an addon with what was generally a reasonable price. It wasn't offered because I'm more handsome than the rest, a better conversationalist, or was extra hard. It was offered because this is a business and the opportunity was there to make some extra money.
I love my time with these ladies and look forward to it. I pay a reasonable price for the services offered and then it's over. I don't assume some special connection is there or that I've provided anything more than a paycheque to the lady.
If a request is made to keep the experience quiet, I respect that, if not I assume my honest and open sharing of the experience will provide much needed marketing and promotion in this highly competitive market.
And that is my opinion.

michael garrett · Oct 14, 2017

Spexx said:
Yes, we all have families and we require discretion. The ladies don't use their real names either and that is partially for discretion but also so when they change spa's it allows them to reinvent themselves and the appeal.
Point is the assumption that what we seek and what is provided is immoral is where I find the issue. According to market research there are over 20,000 registered massage therapists in Canada 81% of them female. Combine this with the independents and non registered providers I'd say there is 1 masseuse for every 100 people in Canada.
This profession is popular not because there are that many Canadians with sore backs, it's because we Canadian men are in a constant search for female touch and temporary intimacy, even if it is false intimacy.
I am not saying we need to boast about sessions when the masseuse clearly doesn't want the attention, but once again why would they offer such experiences if it could risk their job or personal relationships? I wouldn't take those risks for an extra $40. But once again, competition is high and if you want to stand out you need to offer more than the next lady.
I am new at this but not once have I ever engaged the question or flashed money. Each time it was offered as an addon with what was generally a reasonable price. It wasn't offered because I'm more handsome than the rest, a better conversationalist, or was extra hard. It was offered because this is a business and the opportunity was there to make some extra money.
I love my time with these ladies and look forward to it. I pay a reasonable price for the services offered and then it's over. I don't assume some special connection is there or that I've provided anything more than a paycheque to the lady.
If a request is made to keep the experience quiet, I respect that, if not I assume my honest and open sharing of the experience will provide much needed marketing and promotion in this highly competitive market.
And that is my opinion.

bravo....bravo...right on the mark and spoken (written) like a Gentleman

Old Fart · Oct 14, 2017

Spexx, you and I are saying the same thing. The ladies are in the business for money. If they can get more, why not but if it by doing something not looked at favourable by society, they want to be careful not to get it 'out' there. There are also many Legit RMT's that DO use their real names because they are real massage therapists and nothing more. It is since the popping up of the new wave of 'massage' places (more like body rub to be more accurate) that some do not use real names.

In places like (going to make up names here so please, do mot read anything not the names) Purple Sky Massage which advertises as legit, "bunny uses her real name because the place is legit and she would stand out if she was the only one using a fake name. She does however provide HE to SOME customers that she has a bit of a rapport with. She also has family living here in 'your city'. You can see why she would be concerned with having it all over that "Bunny" does HE with her massage and have a friend or family member see it. Who's to say she does not have a male relative who is as horned up as many of us are and he isn't looking for HE and happens to see "bunny", his niece, offers this service? That is why we need use a little discretion here. Even if they use fake names, not as critical but still they may be concerned because friends/family still know where they work.

Spexx · Oct 14, 2017

We are saying the same thing but with a difference of opinion or maybe just a generational gap.
BC, Ontario, Quebec forums are much more open and descriptive because they don't see the sociological taboo. Alberta is still very much a conservitive if not socialist environment from way back. I'm just trying to open this up a bit.
I just think if a lady offers me an extra whether this is the first visit or the 20th, it is her responsibility to ask it be kept between us not mine to ask if I can share the experience. With social media and forums galore it can only be assumed I am likely to share with someone, who in turn will do the same, and so on.
Having said that we are definitely on the same side regarding the Nana nightmare post. I would never assume to request something from someone because I was told it was offered to someone else. Not only is that offensive, it crosses the unspoken line that this forum is about; sharing experiences to educate others on the good and the bad with hopes others will do the same so we all can obtain the type of session we individually enjoy. Not to misuse the info we share to pressure the ladies into sessions they are not comfortable with. That's just juvenile.

Spexx · Oct 14, 2017

MASSAGE.MAESTRO said:
I don't know about Juvenile, but it does come across that way when xy kept arguing about it, instead of just saying, "my bad, shouldn't have done that" or whatever and moved on. When I went In on Wednesday, I didn't even ask if I could get a massage. If they were not ready by Monday, they were not ready till Monday...end of story.

I guess when I read the comments by XY it reminded me of when my kids would come to me all determined and demanding they get a treat because their friend or sibling got one.

xy1000 · Oct 16, 2017

First, to be clear I didn’t say any word about Bob credibility at all. All of you was talking about it and his credibility.

Why you guy’s so much defensive about him and also he was so defensive. When is somebody defensive you know very well what that mean.

I was just talking about one particular issue related to Nana. That’s all.

My question is Why he deleted that part from his post what he said about his massage with C…. at Nana.

Why he deleted answer what he gave on JR16 question.

Maybe he did it because he forgot about word “Discretion” or maybe he worry so much C…. from Nana will find out about what he said and what will be her response on it. WHY?

If nothing wrong he don’t needed to delete it at all. Right

Happy ending.

Spexx · Oct 16, 2017

xy1000 said:
First, to be clear I didn’t say any word about Bob credibility at all. All of you was talking about it and his credibility.

Why you guy’s so much defensive about him and also he was so defensive. When is somebody defensive you know very well what that mean.

I was just talking about one particular issue related to Nana. That’s all.

My question is Why he deleted that part from his post what he said about his massage with C…. at Nana.

Why he deleted answer what he gave on JR16 question.

Maybe he did it because he forgot about word “Discretion” or maybe he worry so much C…. from Nana will find out about what he said and what will be her response on it. WHY?

If nothing wrong he don’t needed to delete it at all. Right

Happy ending.

It pains me to keep this going but...
Bob is a credible and honest contributor to this forum because we have no reason to believe he is lying. I can say the same about you, your info and descriptions although sometimes hard to read are helpful and raw which I appreciate
His experience purked many of our interest to this place, mine as well. The concern is your use of info gained in this forum to try and force your way into Nana's. Accept that by using another members experience to imply an expectation to the same place is unacceptable. Apologize and move on. Be the bigger man. This forum doesn't need this veiled drama.
Continue to contribute, I for one enjoy your posts of places I have yet to try, but please don't use mine or any other members experiences to further your objective unless you use more discretion.
Please put this to rest.

xy1000 · Oct 16, 2017

Spexx said:
It pains me to keep this going but...
Bob is a credible and honest contributor to this forum because we have no reason to believe he is lying. I can say the same about you, your info and descriptions although sometimes hard to read are helpful and raw which I appreciate
His experience purked many of our interest to this place, mine as well. The concern is your use of info gained in this forum to try and force your way into Nana's. Accept that by using another members experience to imply an expectation to the same place is unacceptable. Apologize and move on. Be the bigger man. This forum doesn't need this veiled drama.
Continue to contribute, I for one enjoy your posts of places I have yet to try, but please don't use mine or any other members experiences to further your objective unless you use more discretion.
Please put this to rest.

Sure, no problems I appreciate your response.

Old Fart · Oct 16, 2017

xy1000 said:
First, to be clear I didn’t say any word about Bob credibility at all. All of you was talking about it and his credibility.

xy1000 said:
Old Fart, if I posted(somebody from new members on this forum) what Bob posted about Nana... What will be your or older members reactions on it?
You will fuck me off, you will tell me I made it up, call me liar...etc.. Right

Spexx · Oct 16, 2017

Dude! Let it rest! Please!

Old Fart · Oct 16, 2017

Spexx said:
Dude! Let it rest! Please!

I can let it rest on a difference of opinion but not on an outright lie.
And to boot, I never said a thing. I simply posted the lie and let people make up their own minds, until you tried calling me out on it.
Have a great day.

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