Do you ever feel sorry for these girls?

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  1. newtothis82

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    The best part of this is when King Arthur says “These girls make money by catering to the urges of a lot of perverts, creeps, losers, anti-social misfits, unhappy men, etc etc “ and then proceeds to say he is a “nice guy”...let’s face it anyone in this business owners, attendants and clients are not model citizens we are all a bit screwed up.
     
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    I feel better when I found out even president Trump has paid for it.
     
  3. King Arthur

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    Agreed but screwed up people aren’t all assholes in their personal life, we just have that screwed up part and it’s easier to let your freak flag fly with a girl that’s getting paid to service you.
     
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    Except Asian Angela. You would marry her in a minute.

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    I thought your max was 2 minutes. You've improved!

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    It’s a great job if the lady has the right disposition. The only negative I’ve seen is if a lady is addicted to drugs and she does this to maintain her addiction, that’s scary. Luckily, most do it for the easy money.
    I’ve always believed it’s not natural for men to be monogamous.
    If I was Mormon I would have at least 10 wives.
    With my sexual appetite, it’s unfair to expect only one lady to handle my needs, so thank goodness for Spas and SP’s.
     
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    Frankly any "inhibitions" I might have (I can't name any, personally) don't really have anything to do with whether or not I'm polite and respectful in a session. And if I'm paying for a different respect dynamic, that goes back to normal once the session is over. The reality is that sex work is work; it's one of the most demanding customer service oriented jobs imaginable, it wanders into emotional labor in ways no other job can, and the attitudes toward it are hugely variable, as you're demonstrating.

    In addition, the idea that men and women working in the sex industry are "not qualified for anything else that pays" is a joke. This job just happens to pay very well for the people who are good at it, which is one of the biggest reasons people get into it and stick with it. Lots of SP's have other jobs, or trained to do other things and then decided they wanted a change; whether that was more money, better hours, or a personal change of pace is different from provider to provider.

    The idea that every provider is coming from the same background and doing sex work for the same reasons is crazy. lol That would be the first job in the history of mankind where every single practitioner is doing its for the same reason, with the same expectations and same goals.

    The reality is there's really no reason to disrespect a provider, and plenty of reason not to. Even if you want to ignore basic human decency, the chance your ATF is going to stay in the industry longer is often dependent on how clients treat them. If you want the industry to remain a smorgasbord of top talent, it pays to treat sex workers with the same respect you'd treat anyone in any other profession. Sex work isn't a psych ward, and prostitutes aren't cops. There's no reason their customer interactions need to be unpleasant. Unfortunately, some clients have hangups about women and their own sexuality, and in my experience that's really the root cause of hostile attitudes towards sex workers. And across the long term, that hurts everyone involved both as individuals, and as clients and workers in an industry we all clearly value.
     
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    Your happy hooker pep talk is nice but irrelevant, because if it weren’t for guys with hangups about women and their own sexuality sex workers would be out of business. No one goes into it as a first choice, client or provider. For me that’s not hard to accept, because where else is a guy my age going to get sucked and fucked by a bunch of different girls around 19 or 20 (and I don’t care about keeping my ATFs around for long because youth is market value, there will always be new younger girls providing the same services). I’m not going to be an asshole to a girl but she’s there to provide a service like you said, and I’m focused on getting that service.
     
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    And why do so many girls retire and come back again and again? They want to do something else but they can’t.
     
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    They choose not to do something else.
     
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    I don't think the industry needs people with damage or hangups to exist, to be honest. I think if sex work was more accepted and not shamed or illegal, demand would be way up. It would be like any other indulgence, like spirits, cocktails, food, massage, live entertainment. It is that already, it's just shrouded by this cloud of destructive puritanism and shame that those other luxuries don't have. If anything, sex work has the ability to lessen inhibitions and expand boundaries for clients. It's often effectively therapy, or a safe space for exploration for a lot of people.

    Lots of providers don't enter the industry as their first choice, but some do. I think what matters most is why they stay; if it becomes their first choice somewhere along the line, it is their first choice.

    As for clients, sex work is often a first choice because it comes with no emotional responsibility. Plus sex with civilians is hit-or-miss, and costs far more in time than it does in money. Aside from that level of access and quality, there's just an inherent difference between sex with someone you're attached to, and sex as a conversation. I enjoy both, and I doubt I'm alone in that.

    To your other question, I think people quit and return and quit and return for different reasons. I'm sure for some, it's because they find work outside of the industry less fulfilling or specialized in ways they're no longer fit for, as you mentioned. Realistically, doing a job anywhere for a few years can leave you feeling behind the curve in other career paths. Others return because they genuinely like it. Making their own schedules, working with likeminded providers and clients, living what's essentially the contract life instead of the salaried life. I'm a contractor myself, so I get it. A rare few also just thrive on the job itself; experiencing other people's sexuality, and exploring themselves as well. I think that's a more popular line than it is a truth, because it's a flashy thing to say, but I know for some it's a very real attraction.

    I don't think we can really generalize about why people leave one career and then come back. I'm sure for some you're right, failure is a factor. That's present in any industry, and it's sort of the impact of living in such a specialized age. But for many, there are lots of other reasons. It varies from person to person, I guess because sex workers are people like everybody else.
     
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    I don't ever question why a waitress is a waitress or a mechanic is a mechanic.

    No need to question why a hooker is a hooker.
     
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    That may be her perception but she's doing the same things for the same money as all the other girls at Premier. Subjectively she may feel that way, and subjectively many guys feel they're using her. But objectively it's a voluntary transaction where both parties benefit.

    Whether or not you want to deal with someone who has that attitude, whichever side you're on, is a different story.
     
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    There are many moments at work where I feel like I'm prostituting myself. As soon as you are in a position of having to do something not by choice but for the trade of getting paid, it's not a typical goods or services transaction. It's not the same as selling a hamburger to someone, what the provider inputs (or gives up) is more than that, so hence the cost is higher. People un-retire because they want or need the money and there isn't a better alternative. Same reason most people go to their respective jobs. We all have a price. But we also all have a limit where the market price is not enough for us to compromise ourselves. Maybe you have some greater reason for why you go to work (fulfillment, power, etc), but the only way to know how much you intrinsically enjoy your work is to remove money from the equation, that's how much you love your job.
     
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    To answer the question, Negative.

    It's all business. I got the money they want and they got the goods I want. As long as I enjoy myself with her, I couldn't careless. Best feeling though is extras without tipping being asked.
     
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    Why feel sorry for them? They get to set their own hours and days pretty much, they choose full time or part time, have fun and stroking guys' dicks for easy money.
    One day's work at Walmart would probably net $100. At a spa, they can make that in a fraction of the time.
     
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    The right word here is choice ..unless there doing drugs they have a choice..i disagree this does require skill .dealing with men back 2 back it is a skill..it's hard mental work..seeing men after men ..smiling, ,looking happy and being sexy. It takes skill , there addiction is the money ..it's not easy but it pays well . A well paying job or hustle will keep you coming back it since it will sustain a certain lifestyle. .and when you leave the profession and unless you invested your money well you realise that you can't sustain that lifestyle ..so you return for another chapter. That said I respect the ladies that provide this service especially the good ones ..they should earn good money..they have to deal with all kinds of characters. Some of us just like new pussy ..some of us have real issues and couldn't get pussy any other way ..again we are taking mpa here ..so they also have a choice when they are the room . Again the option of making zero tip 50 tip vs 100 tip is a choice they decide by offering additional services. Just Pay be respectful and enjoy what they are providing, don't fucking kid yourself without them you would either be Jerking off , dealing with your fat unattractive wife, having an affair or spending $$ in trying to convince your new girlfriend to fuck you. All ladies in this profession should be respected and they should earn good money ...that is what attracts the gorgeous ones. .thats what keeps the stock replenished . Respect the pussy and you won't feel sorry .Simple

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    Apply the KISS principle. Once you over complicate or over analyze matters you got a problem ? :)
     
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    I feel sorry for the women forced in to this by others.
    I feel sorry partially for the women how fell victim to society and feminist agenda.
    I feel sorry not for the nymphos.
     

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