Question for you guys

I like a bj to start. There was Ivana who would ask you how many times you want to come, I told her "multiple", she drops to her knees and does a bbbjcimsw. Then we started the session.
I change things up depending on the vibe, some sessions I will be slow and passionate, other times it would seem like I just did a 5 year sentence.
Having seen Juliiet a few times, she is a great girl.

I like the massage but then again I'm a low mileage client.

I think not giving any kind of massage is downright lazy. Believe it or not some guys aren’t looking for just extras.

msgme said:

If you wanna offer extras like blowjob then just tease the dude. Get your mouth in that area, lick or kiss the shaft. Get really close to putting it in your mouth until he begs you for it. Like open your mouth and slowly get close and if he pushes forward then back off and say its extra. Sometimes I do hate asking because if they says she don't do it then I just feel like getting outta there and it kills the mood. Always initiate the extras by teasing it and not asking for it straight up

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For some guys blowing at the guys ear when properly done will get him horny as fuck.

MissJuliiet said:

Hey fellas!

I know you guys are always willing to give feedback/advice so I figured i’d ask here.

Does anyone really give a fuck about the massage? Whenever I have new clients I always give them a massage just to get to know them a bit but I honestly hate to waste time on it they don’t really care about it. But I find most guys are too shy to say what they really want despite me trying my best to create a comfortable environment (as difficult as that seems to be these days, lol)

Also a side question. I haven’t been offering extras explicitly because I feel like it comes off as a greedy/money grab if i just flip a guy over and say “hey want a blowjob? *wink*” so what’s the sexiest way a girl has brought up extras (aside from when I just really want to then I just go for it)

Thanks guys

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Real men will tell you upfront what they want. The massage part shouldn't be considered a waste of time. If you do look as waste of time you shouldn't. You giving more than a massage you're giving them an experience. Some men will tell you things that they won't tell others. For men who doesn't like the massage they will like it if you improve your skills and learn to communicate. Remember men are people too. Too many women think we are just sex crazed men. That is partly true but we also like feminine women. After a while you might want to ask is there anything else you would like? It's better than asking a man if he wants a blow job. Only if he doesn't get the hint you don't want anything else then you can say the options.

For me what I think is greedy is when someone put least amount of effort and just doesn't care about their customers. If you give a good massage with effort which takes time men won't see that way. Be authentic and caring.
I will tell you experience with this stripper I had dances with. if she ask and I say no she didn't get mad. Some dancers have horrible attitude if you decline for a private dance. The mind blowing thing was one day I had a cold and she gave me a cough syrup. She didn't get mad and ask me why I wanted a dance when I was sick considering she could catch a cold. She cared about me, sure I spent money. But I spent a lot more later on because she was an authentic caring person.

there are ways to get a lot of loyal clients. It should work in pretty much most industries but there's a lot to write about it so I won't post it here.
I have read some experiences where the women quickly have sex and end it too soon. Things like sex shouldn't be rushed. Also take care of yourself. Remember if you get tired you will give poor service. This problem can be solved with meditation or using a float tank. Meditation and float tank helps you really relax. If you're in a bad mood a floating tank will probably put you in a better mood.

^There will be many meek clients or just nervous newbies, comprising about 1/3 of the client base.

Potato said:

To answer your question, the best way to find out if a guy wants a massage, ask him and in your question give him two options. Do you prefer a massage or would you like to skip the massage and get to the fun part? So this way they have to answer, Yes I want a massage or I want to skip.
If you ask them, would you like a massage? A new guy thats probably nervous is thinking to himself "oh shit, is that what they do? Am I suppose to say yes? Just go with the flow... Yes sure I would like a massage". So they'll agree to it out of panic rather than getting to what they really want.

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This. Had a couple of MPAs ask me this same question when I first started going to spas years ago.

@MissJuliiet if the guy is already lying face down on the table when you walk into the room, you can always drag your boobs across his back a few times and ask the same question as above.

For me it is

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MikeTO said:

Real men will tell you upfront what they want.

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Some guys are just shy,or a bit intimadated, or just think that it is rude

Listen things have changed a lot over the years and mpas have become more open minded so most guys are looking for extras. But my favs are the ones who go the extra mile to make it a sensual experience. I haven’t seen Sara for a few years but she was highly skilled at giving pleasure without extras. I remember have my legs shake after sessions with and thinking this was better than sex with 90% of woman. What makes my all time fav (you know who u are lol) incredible is her amazing sensuality, and comfortable nature that puts her over the top, if I ask her to massage and tease me she will drive me nuts. I feel that some girls are just mechanical and would be like going to a high volume escort.( not my cup of tea) it’s kind of understandable since according to this board guys are looking for high volume providers like Nina and others. If your shy just lay down and go with the flow.

I think the art of sensuality has been lost by many ladies...but again I blame this on the market not the ladies. This sensuality and tease is why I never visited escorts and went the massage route . Anyways to each there own, we are blessed in this city but I think sometimes we take it for granted. I also think a lot of girls take it for granted and just figure if they do Fs quickly it’s less work and more money, cause although most guys think they are pornstars...they sadly aren’t lol

newtothis82 said:

Listen things have changed a lot over the years and mpas have become more open minded so most guys are looking for extras. But my favs are the ones who go the extra mile to make it a sensual experience. I haven’t seen Sara for a few years but she was highly skilled at giving pleasure without extras. I remember have my legs shake after sessions with and thinking this was better than sex with 90% of woman. What makes my all time fav (you know who u are lol) incredible is her amazing sensuality, and comfortable nature that puts her over the top, if I ask her to massage and tease me she will drive me nuts. I feel that some girls are just mechanical and would be like going to a high volume escort.( not my cup of tea) it’s kind of understandable since according to this board guys are looking for high volume providers like Nina and others. If your shy just lay down and go with the flow.

I think the art of sensuality has been lost by many ladies...but again I blame this on the market not the ladies. This sensuality and tease is why I never visited escorts and went the massage route . Anyways to each there own, we are blessed in this city but I think sometimes we take it for granted. I also think a lot of girls take it for granted and just figure if they do Fs quickly it’s less work and more money, cause although most guys think they are pornstars...they sadly aren’t lol

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Sensual experience is a great point. The smexy looking girl that is a corpse on flip isnt going to get real repeats. Any girl that is able to connect with a gent will have the guy comming back. Its a hustle, the girls that got the game will have the regs lining up.

MissJuliiet said:

I’m at seduction babe! Not sure if that’s a positive point though considering how things are on the boards these days LOL

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How you handle negative reviews or complaints is important. I had angry customers turn to loyal ones because I wasn't fighting them or asking my customer's to defend me.

newtothis82 said:

Listen things have changed a lot over the years and mpas have become more open minded so most guys are looking for extras. But my favs are the ones who go the extra mile to make it a sensual experience. I haven’t seen Sara for a few years but she was highly skilled at giving pleasure without extras. I remember have my legs shake after sessions with and thinking this was better than sex with 90% of woman. What makes my all time fav (you know who u are lol) incredible is her amazing sensuality, and comfortable nature that puts her over the top, if I ask her to massage and tease me she will drive me nuts. I feel that some girls are just mechanical and would be like going to a high volume escort.( not my cup of tea) it’s kind of understandable since according to this board guys are looking for high volume providers like Nina and others. If your shy just lay down and go with the flow.

I think the art of sensuality has been lost by many ladies...but again I blame this on the market not the ladies. This sensuality and tease is why I never visited escorts and went the massage route . Anyways to each there own, we are blessed in this city but I think sometimes we take it for granted. I also think a lot of girls take it for granted and just figure if they do Fs quickly it’s less work and more money, cause although most guys think they are pornstars...they sadly aren’t lol

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That takes many years of learning what works and refining things.

MissJuliiet said:

Thank you all SOOO much for the feedback! I definitely have a lot of material to take into session with me! I’ve been off the boards for a while but now I have a newfound faith since you have all been so friendly/supportive!

And by the way I don’t see the massage as a waste of time. In fact I think most of my clients would say I give a pretty good massage I’ve just been noticing a lot of new guys at seduction recently and didn’t know how to act around them. Now I feel more comfortable thanks to u guys

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You should try the break the ice thing. When you first see the customer you smile and give him a hug and maybe a kiss on the cheek. That breaks the ice for the shy guy. You will likely able to tell if he's a shy guy. I'm only guessing here but I am assuming shy guys would need or want a massage to get comfortable whereas a confident guy might not want the massage. You won half the battle there right because you should able to tell if he's shy.x

MissJuliiet said:

Hey fellas!

I know you guys are always willing to give feedback/advice so I figured i’d ask here.

Does anyone really give a fuck about the massage? Whenever I have new clients I always give them a massage just to get to know them a bit but I honestly hate to waste time on it they don’t really care about it. But I find most guys are too shy to say what they really want despite me trying my best to create a comfortable environment (as difficult as that seems to be these days, lol)

Also a side question. I haven’t been offering extras explicitly because I feel like it comes off as a greedy/money grab if i just flip a guy over and say “hey want a blowjob? *wink*” so what’s the sexiest way a girl has brought up extras (aside from when I just really want to then I just go for it)

Thanks guys

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Even though the input of sexy females and sp’s wasn’t asked I’ll still give my input <3. In regards to the massage it certainly depends on the client, I usually ask if they Came in looking for more of a massage or more intamacy and passion, when they awnser thay question it opens up the doors to your extra services, without coming across as pushy or a money grab. You want to please people and by talking to them and finding out exactly what they want makes you both transparent and makes the session much easier and sexier... with that being said, play it by ear as well, if a client appears eager and super horny (very touchy lot a of dirty talk etc) , then he obviously wants more then a standard massage, if he’s very talkative and passionate then he is probably more gfe etc.

You gentleman should deffs take note that this lovely gal is curious on what you guys want and are looking for,
That shows that both of you will enjoy your time and have a super sexy time!!

Xo

MissJuliiet said:

Hey fellas!

I know you guys are always willing to give feedback/advice so I figured i’d ask here.

Does anyone really give a fuck about the massage? Whenever I have new clients I always give them a massage just to get to know them a bit but I honestly hate to waste time on it they don’t really care about it. But I find most guys are too shy to say what they really want despite me trying my best to create a comfortable environment (as difficult as that seems to be these days, lol)

Also a side question. I haven’t been offering extras explicitly because I feel like it comes off as a greedy/money grab if i just flip a guy over and say “hey want a blowjob? *wink*” so what’s the sexiest way a girl has brought up extras (aside from when I just really want to then I just go for it)

Thanks guys

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If you know what you're doing a massage can be a good lead up to the fun, but not too long.
I agree it can be hard to read what a person is into even mpas, so usually go slow, like leaning in for kiss and pausing to see if she comes closer or kissing her stomach leading to her inner thighs before going in for daty. Body language is key here.
Same on your end if you want to go further, you could give little kisses down his chest to his groin area , slowly hold his dick close to your face , maybe kiss the shaft and then look up at him . By this point you should know, either by signal like a nod or some dirty talk. This will come with experience. Some of my best sessions were where the girl just teases me for a bit then just goes for it full on, kinda like she read my mind.
And this is who I repeat with, where there's no talk of tip which just ruins the mood. From your side I know your taking a chance by not getting what you want $. This is why sometimes I'd rather see an sp so I know upfront what they're looking for.

The majority of girls do their sessions their way using the same routine all the time for everyone, and that's why they are average and don't get a lot of repeat business.

Great MPAs use their intuition, experience and intelligence to figure out exactly what turns on every different client on an individual basis, and then drive him totally wild to the very best of their ability and comfort levels. Those girls are the ones who are always booked solid with clients who generously appreciate their great sessions.

Some guys like the massage, some guys don't. Their have been polls on other boards and it seems the majority prefer to skip the massage altogether and get right to the action. Sure some guys are ballsy enough that they will just tell you everything they want the moment they walk in the door, but I suspect the majority of clients don't want to be directing you and infinitely prefer for services to be offered rather than having to ask.

So since some guys like the massage and some guys don't, if you are actually going to try to make them happy on their own terms rather than giving everyone the same session whether they like it or not, the best way as others have suggested to is ask in a sexy, flirtatious way where clients truly feel like they have a choice, e.g. "would you like to start with a massage or do you like to start with the fun stuff?".

You can also suggest saving the massage for after the session, and if your client has finished before the amount of time he paid for then you should absolutely be filling the remaining time with massage, cuddling, or even another SOG rather than hustling him out the door as soon as you can.

If you make sure every moment he has paid for is filled with some type of pleasure then you will likely soon find yourself booked wall to wall with eager regulars.

Sybarite said:

Great MPAs use their intuition, experience and intelligence to figure out exactly what turns on every different client on an individual basis, and then drive him totally wild to the very best of their ability and comfort levels. Those girls are the ones who are always booked solid with clients who generously appreciate their great sessions.

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@Sabarite I couldn't have said it better.

Not every guy is looking for extras every session. Sometimes I want fs, but most of the time I'd rather a sensual massage with lots of teasing and edging. Many of the fs girls don't offer that, and couldn't even if I asked. A truly erotic session takes skill.

If I'm a regular client, a great MPA can read what I want and adjust accordingly, even to the point of recommending another girl for times I want service outside her comfort level.