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Do you ever feel sorry for these girls?

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A lot of these girls, especially the very good ones, have a completely distorted perception of reality.

They feel empowered. They think that they’re just using guys’ perversions against them for money, when in reality, it’s the girls who are being used by middle class men who don’t give a shit about a few hundred bucks.

We constantly see girls quit or say they’re ready to quit, and then come back. The latest being Katie @ Pure (whom I’ll be banging again very soon). They think they’ve got full control and can quit any time like turning a light switch on/off, when the reality is that the real world offers them very few options after beyond get a sugar daddy and become completely dependent on a guy (empowering?).

Sometimes, I’m with one of these girls and get depressed when I think about it.

Then I stuff them and feel better.
 
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Nah I don’t feel bad. If these girls weren’t hooking they wouldn’t be doing something better. That’s why you don’t see the hottest girls doing this, because the hottest girls have a lot more opportunities. They become an event planner or something like that and get a rich husband no problem, in a couple years they’re major MILFs. Walk through a business school sometime and you’ll see a lot more hot girls than at a spa. There’s a lot of opportunities out there for hot girls, but the girls at spas would be working at Walmart and having loser boyfriends if they weren’t doing this, that’s why they all come back because they know they can’t do better. You’re giving them the best life they’ll ever have, you shouldn’t feel bad about that.
 
If you felt that sorry for them, you wouldn't see them.
I don't feel bad for them. Life is all about choices. They choose to do this job and some of them really like it.
Sure they don't like some of the clients, but they do well financially.
 
I feel bad for some of them as this will most likely be their life for the foreseeable future (5-10 years???).
 
I don't see it as either individual is being used. It's a voluntary transaction in which both parties benefit. We're perfectly fine with any other exchange of labour for money but when it comes to sex work all of the sudden there's a perception one side is being used.
 
It is all about choices and actions. They choose this life or ther actions put them here. Nothing else.
 
Its easy money for them that's all it is pays better than other jobs
 
I don't see it as either individual is being used. It's a voluntary transaction in which both parties benefit. We're perfectly fine with any other exchange of labour for money but when it comes to sex work all of the sudden there's a perception one side is being used.

That’s true for many of them, who are just nice girls trying to get by. But then there are girls like Katie who, from conversation, obviously feels like she’s using us and is just trying to find a sugar daddy to use and abuse.
 
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Don’t read so much into it !
If we are talking about some kind of human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution that is a different thing all together . I wouldn’t waste your time worrying about these women cause they for damn sure aren’t worried about the men lol . As is posted above these women make a voluntary choice to enter this type of work , I believe it’s because of the fast easy money, my opinion is they are fucking lazy and don’t want to work as hard as is needed work and get ahead in a “normal” job . Maybe us men are the dumb fucks cause I know they are pulling in more cash than I am in a week . Than again they have to massage and fuck and suck and kiss all kinds of nasty fuckers for that cash !! I just don’t believe they have any shame at all
 
That’s true for many of them. I’m specifically commenting on girls like Katie who, from conversation, obviously feels like she’s using us and is trying to find a sugar daddy.

She’s using us and we’re using her only difference is that in a few years the money she’s using us for won’t have aged a bit but she will have, so we have the upper hand. That’s why the sugar daddy lifestyle doesn’t work out for these girls, because the guy can always find something new. How many girls have made a big deal about officially retiring and then cone back? So many. Katie is trying out her options, I get it, but she sees that she can’t live like she wants for long without us. Why worry, I’m just glad she’s back, she is one of the hottest girls and best FS girls ever.
 
I don't see it as either individual is being used. It's a voluntary transaction in which both parties benefit. We're perfectly fine with any other exchange of labour for money but when it comes to sex work all of the sudden there's a perception one side is being used.

Totally agree.

Really for anyone who has paid for a lot of lousy sessions, the ironic reality is that if one side is being used it's arguably not the young ladies!
 
The OP isn't being genuine, but I will still answer.

Feel sorry for what? The girls want to offer sex for money. All women exchange sex for money - your mother, your sister, your female co-workers. All women, essentially, act as 'whores'. Professional escorts are just more honest about it. And they do larger volumes of men than a civilian whore.

In my eyes, all women are prostitutes. I don't differentiate between an escort and a woman who marries a guy because he has a good job and can provide for her and 'her' children.

What is worse? A sexy, young 22 year old lady who fucks you for 1 hr @$250; or a wife that divorces you when you reach your maximum earnnig potential, refuses to let you have custody of the kids, and then demands child 'support' and alimony for the next 15 years, while she lives in the house that she forced you to leave, AND, fucks some new guy in the bed that you shared with her for the past 10 years. And you have to pay for it all because she is no longer happy.

All women are intolerable, devil-like cunts. Better to pay a girl a small amount and spend only 1 hour with her, than pay hundreds of thousands if not more and have her lawyer up and take all your property after she is done with you.
 
One problem for these girls is that the aging process is really hard on them because they age prematurely. They get that worn out look and jaded attitude so quickly compared to civilian girls. A girl like Katie only has a few years at her top earning potential but these girls aren’t good at saving so they end up staying as long as possible because they don’t have better options. I feel bad for those girls but that’s why I usually don’t see them if they’re older, it’s like going for a walk on the boulevard of broken dreams. When they’re young its still fun.
 
Don’t read so much into it !
If we are talking about some kind of human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution that is a different thing all together . I wouldn’t waste your time worrying about these women cause they for damn sure aren’t worried about the men lol . As is posted above these women make a voluntary choice to enter this type of work , I believe it’s because of the fast easy money, my opinion is they are fucking lazy and don’t want to work as hard as is needed work and get ahead in a “normal” job . Maybe us men are the dumb fucks cause I know they are pulling in more cash than I am in a week . Than again they have to massage and fuck and suck and kiss all kinds of nasty fuckers for that cash !! I just don’t believe they have any shame at all
I disagree with this. Many of them work very hard. And it isn't an easy job, no matter what a lot of people think. Any service-related job is hard.

As far as the money goes, it seems like the top girls at Premier make a lot of money each shift, but this isn't the case at every spa. It isn't uncommon for the girls at Muse or Flirt or Vivid or Sunshine to see 1-2 people in a shift. When they pay their fees to the spa, and you factor in their expenses (make-up, nails, hair, lingerie) it gets to be expensive.

And then some of the gorillas that walk in to see them. I don't envy them at all. But it beats making minimum wage.

I'd love to be a Hugh Hefner type, build a mansion, and be a sugar daddy to two dozen ladies. Not in this lifetime, though.
 
I do feel sorry sometimes.

It also depends on who it is. Many girls have talked openly to me that they feel its a “hustle”.

So go into sessions with that in mind.
 
I do feel sorry sometimes.

It also depends on who it is. Many girls have talked openly to me that they feel its a “hustle”.

So go into sessions with that in mind.

I have no problems with a girl feeling that way so long as I’m pumping her hard and my load winds up in her or on her. They all think they’re hustling but it’s a good trade when the girl has to provide good service. Let them hustle as long as they provide good service.
 
I disagree with this. Many of them work very hard. And it isn't an easy job, no matter what a lot of people think. Any service-related job is hard.

As far as the money goes, it seems like the top girls at Premier make a lot of money each shift, but this isn't the case at every spa. It isn't uncommon for the girls at Muse or Flirt or Vivid or Sunshine to see 1-2 people in a shift. When they pay their fees to the spa, and you factor in their expenses (make-up, nails, hair, lingerie) it gets to be expensive.

And then some of the gorillas that walk in to see them. I don't envy them at all. But it beats making minimum wage.

I'd love to be a Hugh Hefner type, build a mansion, and be a sugar daddy to two dozen ladies. Not in this lifetime, though.

If it wasn't an easy job, they wouldn't do it. Roofing is a tough job. Cutting down trees in a BC forest in the fall is a tough job.

Opening your legs and letting a man pound away at your kitty for 3 minutes isn't a tough job. If it was, how do these girls see clients back-to-back-to-back-to-back etc. in 1 day? A roofer can only do one roof, maybe two in one day and then they are done. The work is too taxing to do anything more.

At Premiere, the top girls do 8 clients a day. At the Chinese sex shops, they do 12 - 16 per day. If it was so hard to service a client, they wouldn't be able to service so many.

You must hate yourself more than I even realize. You want to rescue these girls and pay them to live with you in your mansion like Hugh Hefner. Why? Are you their saviour?
 
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A lot of these girls, especially the very good ones, have a completely distorted perception of reality.

We constantly see girls quit or say they’re ready to quit, and then come back.

They return and return and return again. Because it is an easy job and easy money. If it were harder than other jobs, they wouldn't return.
 
I only feel bad for providers when I see the obvious misogyny they need to deal with, often expressed in threads like these. :)

Why feel bad about that? These girls make money by catering to the urges of a lot of perverts, creeps, losers, anti-social misfits, unhappy men, etc etc etc. Take away those guys and the girls lose a huge percent of their income stream. I’m a nice guy but I don’t go to the spa to be nice I go for an easy fuck, it’s an escape from regular life and I don’t need to have the same inhibitions that I would with a civilian girl. That’s what you’re being paid for, so why complain? If someone works at a psych ward they deal with a lot of crazies as part of the job. If you’re a cop you don’t get to complain that you deal with assholes a lot. If you don’t like your client case you should get a different job except these girls want the money and they’re not qualified for anything else that pays, so take what you can get.
 
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    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️(647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️(437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯💯💯 - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Apple😘 - Brand new girl from Taiwan
  37. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️(437) 818-8896☎️ ☎️(416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Mia😍 beautiful young Singapore girl. Mia has a very sexy body, and beautiful boobs. She can give very good massage and great playful service. So very sexy beautiful girl. Kelly😘💕is beautiful young student, busty with sexy body and pro
  38. Peony Garden Spa:
    🌸2 GIRLS AVAILABLE TODAY 🌸 DAISY: A PETITE BUT CURVY ASIAN GIRL THAT IS A VERY FRIENDLY AND PROVIDES EXCEPTION SERVICE FOR A REASONABLE TIP 🌸 ELLA: A PETITE YOUNG CHINESE GIRL THAT IS A POPULAR FAVOURITE 🌸 PEONY GARDEN SPA 🌸 3477 KENNEDY ROAD UNIT 4 🌸 (416) 335-6093 🌸
  39. Lily Spa:
    ❤️ KAJAL, SANA and KK are here today for your massage needs ❤️ Lily Spa ❤️ 2190 McNicoll ❤️ Scarborough ❤️ M1V 5M2 ❤️ (647) 531-8288 ❤️
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸MALIYA, SARIKA, MONIKA, PAOLA, ANNA, NIMRAT, SANA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have young 4 beautiful girls are working today , new young open mind Yoyo 36DD 💋and young sweet tiny body open mind Jessy 💋cute fun great massage Summer 💋and pretty GFE Ella are providing deep tissue and sensual massage(tel:416-3985777) book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wil son Ave North York
  42. New Oriental Health Centre:
    💄 Joey & Happy are in Today ~📞📲: (647) 381-2688 ~ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious | Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded 🤗 We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  43. Str8Line:
    Dallas
  44. Sunrise Health Centre:
    💥 Summer is here Today! Call/Text: (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime - Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  45. GoldenFlower:
    SUNDAY at 💛⭐🌟GOLDEN FLOWER SPA🌟⭐💛, 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6 (Kennedy & Hwy 7), Markham, ON 905-258-0777: Jessi, Lucky, Molly & Sonia Jessi is a slim and petite Vietnamese hotty who is garnering repeat visits. Lucky is a slim & beautiful Cambodian lady with a special touch. Molly is a curvy Korean sweetheart with great services. Sonia comes from India
  46. ASPA:
    [color=#FF4181}𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔{/color] B𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹, & Sophia B𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗥𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝗹, & Sophia 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ A THOUSAND PLEASURES AWAIT: SOPHIA is a slim and attractive attendant, about 5’4” tall with nice responsive 34C’s and a captivating smooth rounded bottom. She is very popular
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Coco & Jenny. Coco is a sweet slim lady with nice skills. Jenny has a medium build, nicely curved with a slim waist, pretty face, and very flexible skills. Jenny will make you very happy.
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Cindy, Mia, Sophia & Summer. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude.
  49. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸MALIYA, SARIKA, MONIKA, PAOLA, ANNA, NIMRAT, SANA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  50. Sparkling Spa:
    SEXY ZOE AND COCO 2.O!!! YOUNGER, SEXIER AND HORNIER TODAY @ SPARKLING SPA!!! 50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️(905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️(437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave)✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥
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